Power to the People

[Raivu]

So I presented this idea in another thread, but I"ll actually make a thread dedicated to it because I can, and you can't stop me.

Long story short, "It's too bad the people who actually know how to run this country are too busy flipping burgers and driving taxis"

I vote, Hand LG over to our active, trusted public until it gets back on its feet.
They are on here every day, and they know more about what they, as the public, want as opposed to us, the admins and mods, who are hardly ever active anymore.
Throw Gamechief, and Flareboy up there for instance.
Everyone has come up with great ideas as to what they want/need from a once-was heroic board.

What's the worst that will happen? We'll lose users?

I'm Raivu, and I approve this Message.

[GAMEchief]

I vote Flare.

I don't want a position, but I'm willing to help brainstorm if any mods/staff have questions.

[The Unintelligible]

No .

[Stapled]

No .

Use the poll.

[Ethan]

I can get a whole lot more active if I can get a sexy position finally on this website.
I've been here forever. <3

EDIT1: and I also have experience in moderating a forum, userbase: 200 active users, 5000 total

EDIT2: I know my mental stability will become an issue but I know how to turn that off.

[Raivu]

okay, the poll isn't public. So who's buttholes am I licking?

[GAMEchief]

my mental stability will become an issue but I know how to turn that off.

How to tell if someone is uncontrollably mentally unstable: they think they know how to turn it off.

[Raivu]

How to tell if someone is uncontrollably mentally unstable: they think they know how to turn it off.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GAMEchief again.

[Ethan]

How to tell if someone is uncontrollably mentally unstable: they think they know how to turn it off.

I love you too Gamechief.

[Ethan]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GAMEchief again.

He's mad because I didn't give him my TF2 hats.

[323]

I'm down for helping with Administration, and I think it would be great for the website. I wouldn't even mind if it was GAME or someone instead of me, I just think this website needs some Administration. I have a fair amount of experience, managing a few forums since I was like 9 years old, so I'm an average administrator haha. I wouldn't say I'm great, but I sure as heck can learn and help fix things.

[Raivu]

The way I see it, the public knows what the public wants.
If those in charge only make decisions when they're available to, nothing will get done.
Whereas, the public is always there, and always able, and always throwing out ideas and ready to take action.

Ready
set
Go

[Taz]

I for one want my butt hole licked.

[Raivu]

I for one want my butt hole licked.

Too bad, that's not an option.
You have to specify who, where, when and why.

Just say "Raivu"

[Souleater]

Hate to break it to you guys, even though it is a brilliant suggestion, it won't happen. Alex doesn't like having too many admins for an "inactive" forum.

[Raivu]

That's like saying we don't like having too many wealthy people for a corrupt system.
So we have to keep everyone else poor, and what we think is okay, is what it is. And things will get done when we feel like getting them done.
I see where Adam's coming from, absolutely.
But honestly, what is there to lose? Members?

This isn't at you, Soul. I love you.
I'm just defending and hoping this word reaches Adam so he can at least think about it.

If you're going to have a system that works for the people, you need to have people that can work for the system.

[C0FFINCASE]

Too many cooks spoil the pot.
That's not to say we couldn't stand for new blood and a dedicated effort to reinvent/revitalize LG. I just don't think you can take 10 random assholes off the internet that hate each other and get any where. Every eight months some random user on LG starts doing stupid shit from drama to spam to "hacking" LG.
I do think that you could give a small group semi-admin powers and let them try to do stuff.
Give them a time frame, set some goals, and see what happens. If things get better let them keep going. If they fuck up or nothing changes, demote them.
Sidenote: I'll be around more now. I graduated last week and the economy suck so, you know. I'll be here to assist however.

[GAMEchief]

Too many cooks spoil the pot.

no cook = no pot

[323]

Too many cooks spoil the pot.
That's not to say we couldn't stand for new blood and a dedicated effort to reinvent/revitalize LG. I just don't think you can take 10 random assholes off the internet that hate each other and get any where. Every eight months some random user on LG starts doing stupid shit from drama to spam to "hacking" LG.
I do think that you could give a small group semi-admin powers and let them try to do stuff.
Give them a time frame, set some goals, and see what happens. If things get better let them keep going. If they fuck up or nothing changes, demote them.
Sidenote: I'll be around more now. I graduated last week and the economy suck so, you know. I'll be here to assist however.

I agree with this part:

I do think that you could give a small group semi-admin powers and let them try to do stuff.
Give them a time frame, set some goals, and see what happens. If things get better let them keep going. If they fuck up or nothing changes, demote them.

I think that it would help a lot.

Also, congratulations on graduating, what did you major/minor in?

[C0FFINCASE]

I agree with this part:



I think that it would help a lot.

Also, congratulations on graduating, what did you major/minor in?

Political Science, I was certified in International Relations. I unofficially minored in business,philosophy, and music.

[Souleater]

That's like saying we don't like having too many wealthy people for a corrupt system.
So we have to keep everyone else poor, and what we think is okay, is what it is. And things will get done when we feel like getting them done.
I see where Adam's coming from, absolutely.
But honestly, what is there to lose? Members?

This isn't at you, Soul. I love you.
I'm just defending and hoping this word reaches Adam so he can at least think about it.

If you're going to have a system that works for the people, you need to have people that can work for the system.

And I've brought that up. That was my arguement when I got promoted. And it worked for the 8 months that I was an Admin, but because Alex wanted to restructure...again...besides, we can't cook for ourselves when our head chef won't unlock the freezer for us.

[Raivu]

yeah.
So it's really up to Alex before anything at all gets done to improve LG

[Souleater]

yeah.
So it's really up to Alex before anything at all gets done to improve LG

And we all know thats definitely going to happen. e_e

[323]

And we all know thats definitely going to happen. e_e

Maybe stuff would happen if Alex actually VISITED his own forum, haha.

[The Unintelligible]

So we've reached our verdict and consensus that the success of LG ultimately lies on Artificial's shoulders and conversely this is basically his fault, right?

[2pac]

2pac for prez fuck da rest

[The Unintelligible]

2pac for prez fuck da rest

If you were active and more serious I'd actually consider you a good staff candidate.

[2pac]

It's hard to be serious when you are surrounded by clowns.

[The Unintelligible]

It's hard to be serious when you are surrounded by clowns.

QFT.

Truest statement I've heard on LG ever.

I mean, don't get me wrong though, it's cool/fun when you aren't always serious considering this is LG. But if you were to ever step up to the mod role you cant always be messin *****s up. Na mean?

[GAMEchief]

Truest statement I've heard on LG ever.

1 + 1 = 2

[The Unintelligible]

1 + 1 = 2

2 + 2 = Fish

[GAMEchief]

2 + 2 = Fish

I'm skeptical. Further research is required.

[2pac]

QFT.

Truest statement I've heard on LG ever.

I mean, don't get me wrong though, it's cool/fun when you aren't always serious considering this is LG. But if you were to ever step up to the mod role you cant always be messin *****s up. Na mean?

Yeah i feel ya. I don't have any real desire to be an admin though, specially fo free. ***** gotta be payed.

I just don't see how giving some retard like flare admin powers is going to help anything lol. He'll end up bringing in more retards like him and turn the place into some skiddy hangout.

I think it'll take a lot more than spamming "sign up on lg" everywhere to get some decent users.

[GAMEchief]

I just don't see how giving some retard like flare admin powers is going to help anything lol. He'll end up bringing in more retards like him and turn the place into some skiddy hangout.

Being an admin doesn't necessitate advertising, let alone advertising solely to individuals similar to yourself.

Flare's job wouldn't even be to bring in new users. That would be up to a second person or group of persons. Flare's job solely would be forum restructure and spam management, at least per his topic he made.

[The Unintelligible]

Being an admin doesn't necessitate advertising, let alone advertising solely to individuals similar to yourself.

Flare's job wouldn't even be to bring in new users. That would be up to a second person or group of persons. Flare's job solely would be forum restructure and spam management, at least per his topic he made.

2pac's point was pretty clear. He doesn't see how making Flare in specific an admin would help anything (and frankly neither do I). It's pretty much just a desperation move by LG anyway.

He's not stating being an admin constitutes advertising, he's saying that's all he believes Flare is going to do in his position of admin. Flare restructuring forums isn't exactly the best idea, but if he wants to manage spam/clean things up or something of the like, then a contemporary role as "Janitor" or forum moderator would be best.

All in all, Flare being Admin would simply entail LG clicking the panic button. Not the most prudent idea.

[2pac]

Being an admin doesn't necessitate advertising, let alone advertising solely to individuals similar to yourself.

Flare's job wouldn't even be to bring in new users. That would be up to a second person or group of persons. Flare's job solely would be forum restructure and spam management, at least per his topic he made.

In that case, why is there a need for another administrator? There are six active users. The only forum that you could even classify as active is the junkyard "where anything goes." There is nothing to clean up because there is nothing lol

[GAMEchief]

In that case, why is there a need for another administrator? There are six active users. The only forum that you could even classify as active is the junkyard "where anything goes." There is nothing to clean up because there is nothing lol

If you haven't read the topic Flare started that spawned this poll, you really shouldn't be voicing your opinion on what needs to be done or who should be doing it.

[2pac]

If you haven't read the topic Flare started that spawned this poll, you really shouldn't be voicing your opinion on what needs to be done or who should be doing it.

I've read it and fail to see how anything in the thread makes my point void. Like The Unintelligible said, if he wants to clean up a couple of sub forums and do some advertising, great. Give him a damn broom and janitor title then. All i am saying is lg fucked either way.

[GAMEchief]

I've read it and fail to see how anything in the thread makes my point void. Like The Unintelligible said, if he wants to clean up a couple of sub forums and do some advertising, great. Give him a damn broom and janitor title then. All i am saying is lg fucked either way.

>janitor title

Administrator is a required position to do forum restructuring.

When I discussed it with Arti, he mentioned that if that was the circumstance that administrator would be a temporary position just to handle the forum restructuring after which he would just be a moderator.

I don't know how you think forums work, but there is no magic "broom and janitor" button that gives someone an ability to restructure the website.

[The Unintelligible]

>janitor title

Administrator is a required position to do forum restructuring.

When I discussed it with Arti, he mentioned that if that was the circumstance that administrator would be a temporary position just to handle the forum restructuring after which he would just be a moderator.


I don't know how you think forums work, but there is no magic "broom and janitor" button that gives someone an ability to restructure the website.

oh lord. Are you not paying any attention? We're rejecting the idea of him restructuring forums. That has nothing to do with "cleaning spam up" or anything you said.

Bottom line is no one wants you or flare admin end of story.