Sexist humor increases rape proclivity and victim blaming

[GAMEchief]

Idea? You realize I linked to a research article, right? It's already been tested and proven.

I don't know if the norms are changed long-term, but following the joke, the average person shows higher rape proclivity and victim blaming, a decreased sense of the seriousness of rape, and desires that rape be punished with shorter jail sentences.

That factually happens. Not theoretically. It does.

I also feel like the person that would commit a rape might manifest that tendency in sexism and befriending victims to create situations to rape.

I don't think you know how rape proclivity works. Many do not believe that what they are doing is rape. They aren't creating special situations. They don't have that goal in mind. They don't even realize they're doing it, because it's normalized. As someone who knows multiple victims, the acquaintances/perpetrators victim-blamed and were in denial.

[C0FFINCASE]

Idea? You realize I linked to a research article, right? It's already been tested and proven.

I don't know if the norms are changed long-term, but following the joke, the average person shows higher rape proclivity and victim blaming, a decreased sense of the seriousness of rape, and desires that rape be punished with shorter jail sentences.

That factually happens. Not theoretically. It does.


I don't think you know how rape proclivity works. Many do not believe that what they are doing is rape. They aren't creating special situations. They don't have that goal in mind. They don't even realize they're doing it, because it's normalized. As someone who knows multiple victims, the acquaintances/perpetrators victim-blamed and were in denial.

No, the article doesn't load for me so I just assumed it was a broken link.
Given that these kind of things get published and overturned and that there are undoubtedly different schools of thought that disagree and find fault with any "proven" theory in almost every field I don't feel compelled to accept anyone's theory on anything as fact unless I find the argument compelling. But I do understand how the theory works by normalizing the behavior, I just don't feel like it's an accurate understanding of humanity as a whole. I think that the people that are normalizing humor and then acting on those norms might be a special case. It seems like you'd have to bombard a person with sexist humor for a long period of time and provide a culture of and examples of the behavior for them to actually start emitting the behavior.

I get rape proclivity. I get that consciously they aren't aware what they are doing but somewhere in their mind they do know, that's what denial is for. It's a coping mechanism. If the acquaintanceship correlates to an increase in the chance of rape I'd view that as special circumstance. The rapist is using the "relationship"to justify the rape. I think it makes more sense that they consciously or not created the relationship to pursue their victim sexually. Rape may not have been the intention, just the pursuit, perhaps rape is the by product of failure to win their mate of choice.

[GAMEchief]

No, the article doesn't load for me so I just assumed it was a broken link.
Given that these kind of things get published and overturned and that there are undoubtedly different schools of thought that disagree and find fault with any "proven" theory in almost every field I don't feel compelled to accept anyone's theory on anything as fact unless I find the argument compelling. But I do understand how the theory works by normalizing the behavior, I just don't feel like it's an accurate understanding of humanity as a whole. I think that the people that are normalizing humor and then acting on those norms might be a special case. It seems like you'd have to bombard a person with sexist humor for a long period of time and provide a culture of and examples of the behavior for them to actually start emitting the behavior.

I get rape proclivity. I get that consciously they aren't aware what they are doing but somewhere in their mind they do know, that's what denial is for. It's a coping mechanism. If the acquaintanceship correlates to an increase in the chance of rape I'd view that as special circumstance. The rapist is using the "relationship"to justify the rape. I think it makes more sense that they consciously or not created the relationship to pursue their victim sexually. Rape may not have been the intention, just the pursuit, perhaps rape is the by product of failure to win their mate of choice.

The entire point of my analysis was to address the objective scientific validity of it. There are no "schools of thought" in my analysis or conclusion. It is literally a causal relationship.
Also stopped at 'school of thought,' because it seems the premise of your response is based on a misconception.

[C0FFINCASE]

The entire point of my analysis was to address the objective scientific validity of it. There are no "schools of thought" in my analysis or conclusion. It is literally a causal relationship.
Also stopped at 'school of thought,' because it seems the premise of your response is based on a misconception.

Rest of my opinion had next to nothing to do with that concept.

[GAMEchief]

I think that the people that are normalizing humor and then acting on those norms might be a special case. It seems like you'd have to bombard a person with sexist humor for a long period of time and provide a culture of and examples of the behavior for them to actually start emitting the behavior.

The study literally shows that this isn't the case...
Did you read more than the title?

I get rape proclivity. I get that consciously they aren't aware what they are doing but somewhere in their mind they do know, that's what denial is for. It's a coping mechanism.

Only after being confronted with it. They do not believe it is rape when they do it, and denial or not, most don't believe it is rape after it being explained to them.

If the acquaintanceship correlates to an increase in the chance of rape I'd view that as special circumstance.

This sentence doesn't make sense.

The rapist is using the "relationship"to justify the rape.

There is no rapist. These are hypothetical situations. No one attempts to justify the rape. An objective story is told with no perspectives given on the matter. The only justification for anything would be by the participants. Thus the participants use the relationship to justify the rape -- precisely the normalization sexist humor causes.

I think it makes more sense that they consciously or not created the relationship to pursue their victim sexually.

But you are literally wrong... Why are you just speculating things? This is science, not philosophy.

Rape may not have been the intention, just the pursuit, perhaps rape is the by product of failure to win their mate of choice.

Or rape culture. The idea that women owe sex sometimes, that no doesn't always mean no, that drunken or drugged consent is always valid, that there are ever exceptions, that victim blaming is ever okay, that any justification given when blaming the victim is ever valid. So much is normalized regarding when it is okay to have sex with someone without their consent, and while it may not be consciously acknowledged by us (either denial or subconscious), sexist humor has been objectively shown to increase this normalization.

[Drakonid]

Idea? You realize I linked to a research article, right? It's already been tested and proven.

>Being published in an article=proven and truth