Grindin' Gears.

[Stormie]

What really gets my goat, is people who say things like "Oh, just because you take pictures doesn't make you a photographer" or " You're not a photographer, you're just a teenager with an expensive camera"

The most basic definition of a Photographer is obviously someone who takes pictures, and while I understand how they may get the idea in their head that everyone must be like the myspace girl they saw on the internets, they're profiling, which is ignorant and rude.

I believe that you don't have to have years of experience under your belt to take a magazine cover photo. As long as you have an eye for it and some common sense, it should come fairly easy to anyone.

Anyway, what really gets you angry?

[Drakonid]

Idiots .

[Stormie]

Way to contribute brosef.

[Stormie]

Off your whole taking things serious, I hate the people who freak out and complain about everything, and when something goes wrong,
they believe it's acceptable to throw fits and go into rants about how much their life sucks. I'm too laid back for that crap.

The artist thing I understand as it's the same with photographers.

[Drakonid]

My bad, I thought it was a ranting in the JY.
Let me elaborate my answer. I hate those idiots whn't ever admit they are wrong. That even after proving so they keep thinking they are right.

[Stormie]

YouTube - ‪Family guy- donkey say no no no‬‏

[Stormie]

Dane Cook is awful.

Christian Family members who post passages from the bible on my facebook page, even though they know how I feel about the subject.

[Taz]

Where do i start....
I hate when ugly people think they look good i know about having confidence but damm you ugly, i hate when people try their hardest just to fit in, i hate when the richist people in video games think they are the shit and like run the game you can suck my penis, i hate when im jealous about somethi g even though i know its not good for me, i hate my english teacher becquse he gets a boner by correcting teenagers, i hate when i wanna be alone in school or something people ask you ok or why are you alone, i hate when i regret something that i do, i hate when i think something bad is going to happen, i hate kids that think they are though but really arent, i hate girls that never give a guy a chance because they are looking for the perfect one well bitch there is no such thing, i hate not having something to do, i hate not being able to sleep, i hate really dumb people, i hate when someone tries to correct me when i know im 100% correct.
Im going to leave it at that for now maybe more later i know there is alot of misspelled words because im using my ipod and i have big fingers.

[C0FFINCASE]

I hate the hypocrisy of this topic.
I think that if you have not been trained and paid your dues, then you can't go demand to be accepted into a professional community of any sort.

[Stormie]

I disagree. Sure there's plenty amateur photographers can learn by taking said classes and spending x amount of dollars
but that doesn't mean they're incapable of shooting at the level of someone who has money to burn on such studies.

[C0FFINCASE]

I disagree. Sure there's plenty amateur photographers can learn by taking said classes and spending x amount of dollars
but that doesn't mean they're incapable of shooting at the level of someone who has money to burn on such studies.

You can't be a lawyer without a law degree, you can't be a true pro-grade photographer in the industrial sense. You can have a little photo shop in a mall and take school photos but you aren't going to get a job shooting at Vanity Fair. That is due to that fact you have no certification of the fact you've learned and mastered techniques and skills that a degree and time in the industry assure. Classical training is important, many people can draw but if they don't learn all of the techniques, approaches, and understandings of art then you don't get to be a professional industry artists(ie work at Marvel or whatever).

[Stormie]

From what I've seen it's becoming less of an issue, and much like employers (at least the five I've run across), customers look for experience on the field rather than how many degrees are on the wall.
I'm not saying education isn't worth it, because it definitely is, but without a nice portfolio behind you, you're still going to have it rough.

[C0FFINCASE]

From what I've seen it's becoming less of an issue, and much like employers (at least the five I've run across), customers look for experience on the field rather than how many degrees are on the wall.
I'm not saying education isn't worth it, because it definitely is, but without a nice portfolio behind you, you're still going to have it rough.

The field experience you can get is limited by you education. With a degree your a professional, without one your just some person with a camera.
I'm no different. I'm just some asshole with a guitar who plays loud, Pat Metheny is a musician.

[Stormie]

It's only starting out that the experience would be limited and if you have the drive and the commitment to it, you'd be able to make it off the ground. I know if I were to go take classes for the subject, I'd be well informed but it's not as if I could open a studio the next day and expect people to flock to it. Most people don't look below the surface and as long as they see you can produce quality work, they could care less what you've studied.

I believe to call yourself a musician, you'd have to compose your own work and be able to perform well at whatever it is you do. The name drop you provided is of someone who's known.
There could be someone exceedingly better than him, who hasn't been able to make it big due to a number of reasons.

[C0FFINCASE]

It's only starting out that the experience would be limited and if you have the drive and the commitment to it, you'd be able to make it off the ground. I know if I were to go take classes for the subject, I'd be well informed but it's not as if I could open a studio the next day and expect people to flock to it. Most people don't look below the surface and as long as they see you can produce quality work, they could care less what you've studied.

I believe to call yourself a musician, you'd have to compose your own work and be able to perform well at whatever it is you do. The name drop you provided is of someone who's known.
There could be someone exceedingly better than him, who hasn't been able to make it big due to a number of reasons.

Then they aren't better than him. See if one relies on subjectivity to establish "good" or "better" then yes, one can work hard and gain recognition. Subjective qualification is circumstantial and a really poor way of establishing levels on "good" and makes quantitative ranking impossible. If you measure by market success then you have a simple universal way of defining "good". Famous person is good because they are famous and sell their material. Person who some judge as more skilled that isn't famous or making a fortune is not good because they failed in the market.
I hate Kenny G. I don't personally think he's a musician, but because he's famous and sells his product he is a better musician than me.
I think the average person doesn't look below the surface but professionals and high profile jobs are basically out of reach to someone without the right backing. Now its not impossible to get to the high profile without the right backing it happens but it happens to 1-5% of all those trying to get there. Those that get there on that shot don't make it out of skill or quality, they make it out of luck and the statistics.

[Souleater]

I hate when people won't look at another point of view or even entertain the thought of a different stand point when the evidence is there and is over-whelming.

[mustafa716]

i hate ignorant people. That really pisses me off. Yeah everyone was ignorant once in their lives. But its gotten soo bad that they dont even realize that their being ignorant.

[XiRaX]

Ha, i also really hate how smokers think it's so cool to smoke weed every day and get and do drugs every day.

I hate people who assume that everyone who smokes does it cause they think it's cool.

I also hate skiddies.

[XiRaX]

Derp script kiddies on gaya are annoying.

Agreed, but when you catch them on your RAT and they have a txt file called "Gaia Accounts" on their desktop it's pretty awesome.
And their phishing page's login info gets written to info.txt
And you use bintxt to find the email and password written in their phishing program.

If you watch a skiddie, you'll find all his mistakes. And profit from his stupidity.

[XiRaX]

You never were a scriptor in the first place, beeer. You can't just make up lies now that you're in a new site.

Lol! , what forum was he from ?

[CL0V3R]

People who ask me for my honest opinion and then get all hostel when I tell it to them. People who are extremely overly sensitive and flip out at the drop of a a hat. When people act like elitist jackasses on the internet for no other reason then their superiority complex and their pointless teenage angst. When I say I was just joking and people say I wasn't. When I say something and someone runs with it. Like "Even if a million people told you it sucked as long as one person said it was awesome you'd still want to go. Lol" Then they flip out and call you a fucking bitch and say you called them stupid even though that was no where in the sentence. It's like if I was going to call you stupid I'd call you fucking stupid. Druggies who act like your a product of D.A.R.E and force fed bullshit by the government just because I personally choose not to smoke/take e/drop acid ect. (Even though I usually know more about them on the subject. Which is really the part that pisses me off.) Stoners who go on about how they're enlighten and everyone who doesn't do it could never fathom their "complex compelling ideals" especially when those are just things they saw on the matrix. People who are overly against drugs with out reading anything on the subject besides "drugs are bad mmkay". People who don't do any research on a subject not even reading a fucking wiki article or something and proclaim they are the all mighty knowledge holder on the subject. When someone complains nonstop about stupid shit I don't care about, especially when their life is extremely easy. It's like I can understand people have bad days and I don't mind being there for people who actually need the help... But hearing "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND THE PAIN I GO THROUGH IN MY BLACKENED HEARTTTT" is just fucking dramatic. Especially when people bring up "It's too hard to change". It's like kay if it's too hard to change then nothing will so stop bitching. The current state of internet and my own disillusionment of the world around me feeding into the idea that I will one day become a bitter shut in.

[Stormie]

Girls who try to be accepted by guys more by going on about how they don't mind strip clubs and that girls are indeed hot, regardless of how they really think.
I don't get along with many girls really. And they don't get along with me.

[Souleater]

Zerozaku, one of the worst communities on the internet.

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I hate when people try and re-write stuff to make things go their way.

You never were a scriptor in the first place, beeer. You can't just make up lies now that you're in a new site.

That appears to be correct.

[XiRaX]

Thing is i was a scriptor, Sothe never knew me when i was on Gaia so how would he even know if i was or not?

Okay, first of all, back yourself up.. what did you script ?
And im pretty sure scripting isn't something you can just forget how to do. So if you were a scriptor then you should still be able to now.
Proof?, or your just a dumb noob talking shit.