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[C0FFINCASE]

I have a suggestion. Why not make a serious list of goals, demands, desires, etc. Present them in a logical fashion ans explain how each achieves the other or helps with the ultimate goal of a revitalized LG?
Bitching about inactive admins, forum organization, or campaigning for new staff doesn't really fix any thing.
Flame's first post is in the right vein but ultimately is not really enough. LG literally needs to be rebooted with a clear agenda, goals, and focus.
Adverting is a waste of time since we don't have anything to advertise. New programs are a good idea but rather than randomly pursuing projects for various games we'd need to collectively pick a few games that people here like and know and focus on stuff for them. Subforum reorganization can wait till there is an actual reason to do it.
I would combine Raivu's public approach with Flame's and get a serious discussion going amongst all of us so we can get a goal, form a plan, and then put that into action.

[GAMEchief]

I have a suggestion. Why not make a serious list of goals, demands, desires, etc. Present them in a logical fashion ans explain how each achieves the other or helps with the ultimate goal of a revitalized LG?
Bitching about inactive admins, forum organization, or campaigning for new staff doesn't really fix any thing.
Flame's first post is in the right vein but ultimately is not really enough. LG literally needs to be rebooted with a clear agenda, goals, and focus.
Adverting is a waste of time since we don't have anything to advertise. New programs are a good idea but rather than randomly pursuing projects for various games we'd need to collectively pick a few games that people here like and know and focus on stuff for them. Subforum reorganization can wait till there is an actual reason to do it.
I would combine Raivu's public approach with Flame's and get a serious discussion going amongst all of us so we can get a goal, form a plan, and then put that into action.

GOAL: active administration
DEMAND: active administration
DESIRE: active administration

Logical plan: appoint an active administrator

I think we've done this already.

Subforum reorganization can wait till there is an actual reason to do it.

Skimming, because intro was dumb.
Subforum reorganization has an important reason: attracting new users and keeping participation high.

[C0FFINCASE]

GOAL: active administration
DEMAND: active administration
DESIRE: active administration

Logical plan: appoint an active administrator

I think we've done this already.


Skimming, because intro was dumb.
Subforum reorganization has an important reason: attracting new users and keeping participation high.

Active how? Say you make Flame admin and he logs in every day and posts. He's active. What does that do for anyone?
An actual plan of action with what the new admin would do and why a new admin is required to carry out the plan. You know something that Arti could look at and sign off on might make him more willing to support new staff/admins.

Also the subforums aren't preventing activity or scaring people away. If any thing scares new users away it's us.The active community.
We're already reputed to be complete jackasses and scammers. No noobish person wants to trade on LG or be on LG because they're afraid of LG. Everyone else doesn't see any reason to be here.

[GAMEchief]

Active how? Say you make Flame admin and he logs in every day and posts. He's active. What does that do for anyone?
An actual plan of action with what the new admin would do and why a new admin is required to carry out the plan. You know something that Arti could look at and sign off on might make him more willing to support new staff/admins.

Also the subforums aren't preventing activity or scaring people away. If any thing scares new users away it's us.The active community.
We're already reputed to be complete jackasses and scammers. No noobish person wants to trade on LG or be on LG because they're afraid of LG. Everyone else doesn't see any reason to be here.

I really don't feel obligated to explain the subtleties of administration. It's not about choices and logic; it also heavily encompasses socialization and perception. You're arguing that ads should focus only on their pros and cons instead of celebrity endorsements, and the truth of the matter is that the latter makes sales. More needs to be done than numbers and degrees. There are a lot of changes administrators must take into account that are not intuitive but still time-tested. Flare has at least read the book on the matter. Don't negate it without experiencing it.

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GOAL: active administration
DEMAND: active administration
DESIRE: active administration

Logical plan: appoint an active administrator

I think we've done this already.


Skimming, because intro was dumb.
Subforum reorganization has an important reason: attracting new users and keeping participation high.

I don't think this is the best way to present our demands.

@Clover: I'll type up a few paragraphs and present them here.