Lady Gaga has a wiener.

[NotNeccesary]

I'm just curious as to how "Can I have picture with nips showing allowed?" turned into "Pop vs. other unknown shitty music"

You got gangbanged

[C0FFINCASE]

Pop evolved
Rock didn't
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Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix are rock guitarist. They both made funk. Beck went on to create fusion.
Pop evolved to sound the same and always sounds the same in a given period.
Rock bands have little in common though besides the core instruments. Rock bands also focus on talent while pop focuses on form. Jimmy Page and Eddie Van Halen made it because they were amazing guitarist. The idea rock didn't evolve is also stupid, rock started as fast blues, evolved to the kind of stuff the Beatles and Stones played, evolved into Led Zeppelin and Sabbath, evolved to Judas Priest, evolved to Aerosmith and Guns and Roses, evolved to Chili Peppers and Nirvana stuff. Rock covers a wide range of sounds and styles. It constitutes an open end genera that can have any instruments in it, any format. Its the definition of experimental. From Beatles to Guns and Roses, from Super Tramp to Chili Peppers, from Satriani to Jeff Beck, from Hendrix to Led Zeppelin to Mars Volta. Rock is always pushing the envelope, always doing something new.

Pop musicians don't have to be good, heck if you look pretty we'll make you sound good in the studio and have other people write your songs to sound the same as all the other pop songs.
The repeating in techno and pop is done via sampling not performance. We hit a button and it makes the sound. In rock if we want to make the sound happen we actually have to play.

[Beyoncé]

Pop musicians don't have to be good, heck if you look pretty we'll make you sound good in the studio and have other people write your songs to sound the same as all the other pop songs.

Most can actually sing and write their own music, like Gaga

[NotNeccesary]

Your not getting what I'm saying

Rock still has the same methods of playing, never said anything about sound

I meant evolved playing wise/etc.

Pop evolved seeing that they have autotuners now, a lot smoother ways of making the music, etc., etc.

Both of them require the same amount of work, maybe less or maybe more. So stop hating on ANY kind of music seeing that each one has it's own respected amount of listeners and makers

[Rundeer]

Most can actually sing and write their own music, like Gaga

That doesn't matter if they're just churning out pop bullshit, like 99% of today's "musicians".

[C0FFINCASE]

Most can actually sing and write their own music, like Gaga

When Gaga does something to show case talent I'll consider her talented. I think she might be but she does nothing to show that she's more than the average singer.
The fact she sings some songs doesn't make her talented, Freddy Mercury showed his talent by pushing his vocal abilities in songs. Lets see Gaga do that, then she can be terrible but talented. Once more not say she can't sing cause I have not heard a live performance, recordings get doctored and you always get more than one take.

[NotNeccesary]

When Gaga does something to show case talent I'll consider her talented. I think she might be but she does nothing to show that she's more than the average singer.
The fact she sings some songs doesn't make her talented, Freddy Mercury showed his talent by pushing his vocal abilities in songs. Lets see Gaga do that, then she can be terrible but talented. Once more not say she can't sing cause I have not heard a live performance, recordings get doctored and you always get more than one take.

You seem like you just have it out for her because she's a lot more popular for supposedly doing "nothing" then other "amazing" singers

OH AND
try to compare this freddie mercury and gaga with picasso and davinci

[Frostbite]

When Gaga does something to show case talent I'll consider her talented. I think she might be but she does nothing to show that she's more than the average singer.
The fact she sings some songs doesn't make her talented, Freddy Mercury showed his talent by pushing his vocal abilities in songs. Lets see Gaga do that, then she can be terrible but talented. Once more not say she can't sing cause I have not heard a live performance, recordings get doctored and you always get more than one take.

Umm.... rock music is doctored too xD
I've compared live rock and recorded rock... I haven't found any one of them that sounds remotely like the recording.... ever...

[Kain]

Umm.... rock music is doctored too xD
I've compared live rock and recorded rock... I haven't found any one of them that sounds remotely like the recording.... ever...

there's things called IMPROV and FATIGUE.

Solos are improvved, and rarely sound the same.

Fatigue screws the timing some, and leads to a few mistakes.

And then we get into people like the Grateful Dead, who can extend a song ten minutes longer than the studio length when they're live and still make it sound good.

[C0FFINCASE]

Your not getting what I'm saying

Rock still has the same methods of playing, never said anything about sound

I meant evolved playing wise/etc.

Pop evolved seeing that they have autotuners now, a lot smoother ways of making the music, etc., etc.

Both of them require the same amount of work, maybe less or maybe more. So stop hating on ANY kind of music seeing that each one has it's own respected amount of listeners and makers

Rock has the same way of playing? You mean actually using an instrument? If you're saying they all play the instrument the same way you're wrong, Jimmy Page used a bow, Jeff Beck uses his fingers, and nobody know what the hell Eddie does but its awesome.

Pop is manufactures, its infinitely easier to be able to take a sound recordings and edit it all together. You can do that in a day. It takes years to learn to make sound on a instrument, more time to be able to truly control and understand that sound. It takes more effort to write lyrics that mean something and say what you want to than to throw some gibberish together, record it and then have the studio put you in key and slap on a bass line and some effects.

After I play I can measure what I put into it. There is sweat, there is blood, there is pain, and there are hours gone. When I write it takes months in not years before something is perfected. When I throw something together in a beat maker there is no time, there is no pain, there is no sweat, there is no blood, and there is no meaning.

[NotNeccesary]

there's things called IMPROV and FATIGUE.

Solos are improvved, and rarely sound the same.

Fatigue screws the timing some, and leads to a few mistakes.

And then we get into people like the Grateful Dead, who can extend a song ten minutes longer than the studio length when they're live and still make it sound good.

did you know this applies to the music you were bashing on also? :eek:

[Kain]

did you know this applies to the music you were bashing on also? :eek:

Does Lady Gaga have a band behind her?

Since when!

Also: Axel Rose never needed autotune.
Nor did most rock bands.

[NotNeccesary]

Rock has the same way of playing? You mean actually using an instrument? If you're saying they all play the instrument the same way you're wrong, Jimmy Page used a bow, Jeff Beck uses his fingers, and nobody know what the hell Eddie does but its awesome.

Pop is manufactures, its infinitely easier to be able to take a sound recordings and edit it all together. You can do that in a day. It takes years to learn to make sound on a instrument, more time to be able to truly control and understand that sound. It takes more effort to write lyrics that mean something and say what you want to than to throw some gibberish together, record it and then have the studio put you in key and slap on a bass line and some effects.

After I play I can measure what I put into it. There is sweat, there is blood, there is pain, and there are hours gone. When I write it takes months in not years before something is perfected. When I throw something together in a beat maker there is no time, there is no pain, there is no sweat, there is no blood, and there is no meaning.

Stop yo jibberjabbin and bs
Look at Tiesto, Benny Benassi, ABBA, Herbie Hancock, etc. etc.
they all compare
go get fl studio
and try making a song that sounds EXACTLY like that of a famous pop song
let's see how long it takes you

[C0FFINCASE]

Umm.... rock music is doctored too xD
I've compared live rock and recorded rock... I haven't found any one of them that sounds remotely like the recording.... ever...

Are you listening to modern rock? Cause they are just as bad.
Go listen to some studio Zeppelin, then go listen to Zeppelin on "How The West Was Won" their latest live concert. Same, some added parts but same sound, same feel.

[Beyoncé]

When Gaga does something to show case talent I'll consider her talented. I think she might be but she does nothing to show that she's more than the average singer.
The fact she sings some songs doesn't make her talented, Freddy Mercury showed his talent by pushing his vocal abilities in songs. Lets see Gaga do that, then she can be terrible but talented. Once more not say she can't sing cause I have not heard a live performance, recordings get doctored and you always get more than one take.

YouTube - Lady Gaga Acoustic Telephone/Dance In The Dark @ Brit Awards 2010 (Gaga-Now.com)
I can post a billion more live performances, but I don't have the time.

[NotNeccesary]

Does Lady Gaga have a band behind her?

Since when!

Also: Axel Rose never needed autotune.
Nor did most rock bands.

I said music, not gaga
Gaga doesn't have a band behind her but there's time others of that genre do

Madonna never needed autotune.
Nor did most pop/hip hop/rap singers.

[Frostbite]

there's things called IMPROV and FATIGUE.

Solos are improvved, and rarely sound the same.

Fatigue screws the timing some, and leads to a few mistakes.

And then we get into people like the Grateful Dead, who can extend a song ten minutes longer than the studio length when they're live and still make it sound good.

Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear... when I said they didn't sound the same live... I meant it's because their voice sounded awful. My bad.

[Beyoncé]

I said music, not gaga
Gaga doesn't have a band behind her but there's time others of that genre do

Madonna never needed autotune.
Nor did most pop/hip hop/rap singers.

beyonce doesn't need auto-tune

[Kain]

Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear... when I said they didn't sound the same live... I meant it's because their voice sounded awful. My bad.

Your voice would be different too if you sat on stage, screaming over a roaring crowd for three hours.

[Frostbite]

Your voice would be different too if you sat on stage, screaming over a roaring crowd for three hours.

As would a pop singers.
lern2debate

[C0FFINCASE]

did you know this applies to the music you were bashing on also? :eek:

No, cause music made in a studio and music played live are completely different. They throw a bass line on loop and have singer sing the song seven times and then edit all the good stuff together. Rock band stands there and plays over and over till they get a good take.

I said music, not gaga
Gaga doesn't have a band behind her but there's time others of that genre do

Madonna never needed autotune.
Nor did most pop/hip hop/rap singers.

Madonna isn't good though.

Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear... when I said they didn't sound the same live... I meant it's because their voice sounded awful. My bad.

Axel Rose, Freddy Mercury, Ronnie Van Zant,and Robert Plant sound the same live or recorded.

[Kain]

As would a pop singers.
lern2debate

Except they have people turn up the volume for them.

I've never heard Beyonce have to scream before.

lern2music.

[C0FFINCASE]

beyonce doesn't need auto-tune

Actually she does. I've heard her on the tv before she can't actually hit several parts of some song she does and they have to auto tune it.

[Frostbite]

Except they have people turn up the volume for them.

I've never heard Beyonce have to scream before.

lern2music.

I've heard Beyonce scream many many many times, especially when she sings Halo.
What are you talking about?
Any hello? Rock stars turn up the volume a fuckload to bust out people's ear drums

[Beyoncé]

Actually she does. I've heard her on the tv before she can't actually hit several parts of some song she does and they have to auto tune it.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Frostbite]

One of the most amazing things about Lady Gaga is that she can sing well in low notes <3

[Kain]

I've heard Beyonce scream many many many times, especially when she sings Halo.
What are you talking about?
Any hello? Rock stars turn up the volume a fuckload to bust out people's ear drums

Except it stays that loud the entire song.

I watched beyonce live once, and could hear them changing the levels for her voice.

[Frostbite]

YouTube - Lady GaGa Performing Poker Face Live on Ellen DeGeneres Show. >.>

[Drakonid]

With my Catapult Turtle I can launch my Dragon Champion toward your castle thereby shattering its floatation ring and causing it to collapse on top of your monsters.


Which means:
YouTube - Jethro Tull- Locomotive Breath

I win, you lose.

[Drakonid]

I'm nude.

I would need some proof.

[C0FFINCASE]

With my Catapult Turtle I can launch my Dragon Champion toward your castle thereby shattering its floatation ring and causing it to collapse on top of your monsters.


Which means:

Actually is means Its Time To Duel

I never got how they justified stuff like that in the show. My monster can't beat your but it can hit it blow up a ring and I win. You try that in real life and the other kind is like "What the f...?"

[C0FFINCASE]

I would need some proof.

You don't hear the stripier music? unce unce unce unce

[Drakonid]

Actually is means Its Time To Duel

I never got how they justified stuff like that in the show. My monster can't beat your but it can hit it blow up a ring and I win. You try that in real life and the other kind is like "What the f...?"

Actually it means it just ended.


And that's the reason I kept hearing You can keep your hat on?

[Torian]

Take it out please.


And all of Lady Gaga's songs have bullshit lyrics.


OH HI GUISE IMMA PRETEND TO BE SUM1 ELSE JUST TO GET YOU TO FALL HEAD OVER HEELZ FOR ME.


Awesome generation of music we're in. They needa leave those shitty kind of lyrics to rappers.

[Frostbite]

Take it out please.


And all of Lady Gaga's songs have bullshit lyrics.


OH HI GUISE IMMA PRETEND TO BE SUM1 ELSE JUST TO GET YOU TO FALL HEAD OVER HEELZ FOR ME.


Awesome generation of music we're in. They needa leave those shitty kind of lyrics to rappers.

She's said that each of her songs embodies a different persona... her newer ones being monsters...

[BooBearSH]

You could easily have covered it up... Hell, could have even done it in Paint, no intelligence required.

You = drama queen.

[SN Art]

Gaga > Bowie.
Dont like neither of them.