Pop= techno background (techno repeats itself with tons of instruments which requires work to be put into it), lyrics, cool bridge, done
Old pop= funk, lyrics, cool bridge, done
Rock= well connected mash of instruments (i.e. techno background(funk) cept without synths), lyrics, cool bridge, done
Old rock= well connected mash of instruments, lyrics, cool bridge, done
Pop evolved
Rock didn't
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Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix are rock guitarist. They both made funk. Beck went on to create fusion.
Pop evolved to sound the same and always sounds the same in a given period.
Rock bands have little in common though besides the core instruments. Rock bands also focus on talent while pop focuses on form. Jimmy Page and Eddie Van Halen made it because they were amazing guitarist. The idea rock didn't evolve is also stupid, rock started as fast blues, evolved to the kind of stuff the Beatles and Stones played, evolved into Led Zeppelin and Sabbath, evolved to Judas Priest, evolved to Aerosmith and Guns and Roses, evolved to Chili Peppers and Nirvana stuff. Rock covers a wide range of sounds and styles. It constitutes an open end genera that can have any instruments in it, any format. Its the definition of experimental. From Beatles to Guns and Roses, from Super Tramp to Chili Peppers, from Satriani to Jeff Beck, from Hendrix to Led Zeppelin to Mars Volta. Rock is always pushing the envelope, always doing something new.
Pop musicians don't have to be good, heck if you look pretty we'll make you sound good in the studio and have other people write your songs to sound the same as all the other pop songs.
The repeating in techno and pop is done via sampling not performance. We hit a button and it makes the sound. In rock if we want to make the sound happen we actually have to play.
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When Gaga does something to show case talent I'll consider her talented. I think she might be but she does nothing to show that she's more than the average singer.
The fact she sings some songs doesn't make her talented, Freddy Mercury showed his talent by pushing his vocal abilities in songs. Lets see Gaga do that, then she can be terrible but talented. Once more not say she can't sing cause I have not heard a live performance, recordings get doctored and you always get more than one take.
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- 27 Feb. 2010 09:01pm #8
there's things called IMPROV and FATIGUE.
Solos are improvved, and rarely sound the same.
Fatigue screws the timing some, and leads to a few mistakes.
And then we get into people like the Grateful Dead, who can extend a song ten minutes longer than the studio length when they're live and still make it sound good.
Disco is neat.
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- 27 Feb. 2010 09:05pm #11
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- 27 Feb. 2010 09:05pm #12
YouTube - Lady Gaga Acoustic Telephone/Dance In The Dark @ Brit Awards 2010 (Gaga-Now.com)
I can post a billion more live performances, but I don't have the time.