Lol I just started collecting the cards again.
It actually seems pretty fun to play now that I know old cards aren't banned like in pokemon just a few forbidden ones.
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- 25 Aug. 2012 04:35am #1
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- 25 Aug. 2012 04:50am #2
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- 25 Aug. 2012 05:26am #3
The parting between Atem (Yami's actual name) and Yugi was quite tragic. And to be fair, the sacred beasts (the knockoffs you're referring to) aren't actually knockoffs. Though they are a really similar in terms of appearance, nothing else more than that really. All in all, in comparison they're actually quite a big disappointment.
In every series there's always those legendary/god card hybrid-like cards.
Nice. Haven't the money nor time to invest in the cards anymore. But I still follow it time to time. Oh and, Yugioh was always a better card game than Pokemon. The idea of Pokemon as a card game sends shivers down my spine.
Tbh, I've never really been a fan of banned cards. For the most part, they're far too overpowered imo. There's always a handful of exceptions to that statement though (i.e. Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the End & Chaos Emperor Dragon).
Seems like a pretty bloated deck.
Wow, look at me. I'm probably coming off as a huge yugioh nerd right now.
- 25 Aug. 2012 05:36am #4
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I can understand that every series has their own legendary/god cards, but I never saw them as that powerful compared to the God Cards. Yes, with the exception of their appearences, they are entirely different, but I always went for pure power over effects, and the actual effects of Obelisk was right in my alley.
There are a lot of cards that you can get for relatively cheap now, most of the older cards that people don't have are relatively cheap because of the originals being released in newer packs (IE Gemini Elf, Mechanical Chaser, etc). The card games all follow roughly same rules with a few acceptions, though I will agree that the Yugioh card games were more addictive then the pokemon card game.
When you are going through competitions, the banned/restricted cards are the only thing that can keep you above water at that time (referring more to the restricted cards), that being the reasons I focus on those cards, specifically the Exodia decks and God Card Decks.
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- 25 Aug. 2012 05:50am #5
That's why they're a big disappointment. And to be fair, both god cards and sacred beasts have their respective advantages provided the right deck theme. God cards are more power buffs, but are able to be destroyed via card effects (unless you provide auxiliary cards as safeguards) and are more difficult to summon. Sacred beasts are comparatively easier to summon + they have comparable power to the gods. Sacred beasts also have more support cards/cards that sync well with them.
Obelisk basically was unusable until recently since it had no printed effects. It felt rather cheap using it back then, but now it's a fairly convenient card.
The prohibited cards are off-limit in tournaments. At least currently it's that way. The limited cards (which are only permitted in the quantity of a certain number) do keep you ahead of the ball game generally speaking. But their effectiveness is all deterministic.
And frankly, a God Card deck would probably suck. Far too many drawbacks in using them. Exodia (when allowed) has a few particular weaknesses as well - card destruction. Black Wings/Six Samurais are where it's at.
That's fine. But I'm a cool kid. I hope that doesn't bother you nerds any.
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- 25 Aug. 2012 06:07am #6
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All cards with more than 9 stars were usually not worth it to try and use in a deck, and the fact always comes down to effects being the main driving force when saying it is the easy way to kill him...Except for his actual effect:
Requires 3 Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). This card's Normal Summon cannot be negated. When Normal Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated. Cannot be targeted by Spells, Traps, or card effects. During the End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Send it to the Graveyard. You can Tribute 2 monsters; destroy all monsters your opponent controls. This card cannot declare an attack the turn this effect is activated.
I think we mean the same general thing there, just worded differently.
Exodia can be protected with simple cards: Prohibition against Card Destruction, any card with effects that return cards to the hand from the graveyard which there are almost endless cards and combinations that can do that now.
God Card decks in singularity, not as a group, thats just insane and would require way too many cards to take care.
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- 25 Aug. 2012 06:19am #7
That's true. But then you're obscuring the main role of the deck with prevention cards and such. An ideal Exodia deck consists of 40 cards. If you're aware of what you're up against, Exodia is actually quite simple to counter.
Homogeneous God Card decks are actually more effective as your deck is more balanced or otherwise oriented around them. Thus more support (which in turn leads to quicker summoning, better defense, and overall more efficiency).
Singularity would be bad pragmatically speaking (been there, done that), not to mention there's this.
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I mean, non-literally I would agree with you but then there are the wannabe gangster fags and people of that nature to consider.
- 25 Aug. 2012 06:37pm #8
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I was so freaking happy when those got banned. My cousin had a deck based around getting black luster and yata garasu out on the field and then basically owning people. Plus since he really only restricted himself by saying he would only use light and dark monsters in the deck, he really just had an absurdly overpowered beat down deck.
- 25 Aug. 2012 06:44pm #9
But those are classic cards. Black Luster Soldier is sometimes just limited rather than prohibited though. Which is good. It could be horrendously abused if it weren't limited, but I think it's better off being limited instead of banned altogether.
It holds a classic foothold in the history of Yugioh.
Tbh, while Chaos Emperor Dragon is a good card as well, I don't really care too much for it.
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I don't care about any other incarnation of Black Luster Soldier except Envoy. That care was absurdly over powered. It could attack repeatedly and it could remove cards from play that were stronger than it. Aside from that it was way to easy to get on the field. Plus anyone worth their salt could then keep it on the field long enough to win since a direct attack was worth 3000.
The only reason I like the card is that it is a cannon card that was usable in a real life situation. Most are just not and I always hated that.
I like Chaos Emperor Dragon, it's one of my favorite cards but I've never found a practical use for it really.
- 25 Aug. 2012 07:04pm #11
I agree with this completely. All other Black Luster Soldier variants (I believe there's only two - the original and the incarnation) are bad except for Envoy. Which was canon and a viable part of Yugi's deck.
It's OP, but a pretty useful card. One of my all time favorites to say the least.