God

[erickrealz]

God is not a good subject. Too much is caused by it, like i dont know, WAR. Lets face it there is no way to prove the argument either way, thats it. God is an all=powerful infallible being of infinite age and wisdom, yet he knows that Lucifer is the highest angel that has fallen that will slaughter all of his followers brutally, but he is gonna let it happen to test them....Sounds kinda like Jigsaw to me.

It all comes down to what you have faith in. God is a leap of faith, an immaculate virgin birth is a leap of faith, eating the fast food at the gas station is definitely a leap of faith. I dont take that leap. I know that there is something out there, but its definitely not one all=powerful angry father figure that dictates my fate. I make my own fate. No one controls that but me.

no, it was Lucifer's choice to begin with, he tried to rebel against God and he made his own world. if God would kill Lucifer right there and then, He would then be referred to as a "god of destruction"

[Souleater]

no, it was Lucifer's choice to begin with, he tried to rebel against God and he made his own world. if God would kill Lucifer right there and then, He would then be referred to as a "god of destruction"

I love this argument.

God gave angels no free will when he created them. The only of his children that God begot free will onto was Humans, and mankind. The angels were slaves that were devoid of free will.

So if Lucifer was the highest ranking of all angels and god's right hand man, then he would be given a small amount of free will, if any at all. so the revolt led against god would have had to be God's will since he is the controller of the will and destiny of the angels.

I want to understand how if he is the all powerful, why would he allow one of his own creations, that he has the power to eradicate, kill, torture and maime his own children (IE us)? No point. Exactly.