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[iFresh]

H2O got banned for his quite bias version of this thread, and I want to outline my basic argument.

Claim: ****** is considered a racist term when used by white people
Claim: Black people use the term ****** often, and it is not considered racist
Claim: Racism is the discrimination of one race, or skin color, against another
Therefor: Black people are being racist by being allowed to use the term ****** themselves but not allowing white people to use the term.

Edit:

Whoops. Forgot to include rules. Stupid me, thinking people knew what a debate was:

No racism.
Don't make this about anything other then logic.

We, say ***** not ******. Its like when somebody calls you stupid or retarded you get mad, but when you call yourself stupid or retarded your feelings don't get hurt at all, it not we want to get mad just when white people say it, we do, because everytime a white person does say it, it is a term of racism. That's why we get offended, and you can't think of yourself just, because when you say it, black people get mad and you don't mean it that way, every white person make it seem as a term of racism so that is what we will take it as.(I'm only half black)

[ʝдɮ]

We, say ***** not ******.

Its like when somebody calls you stupid or retarded you get mad, but when you call yourself stupid or retarded your feelings don't get hurt at all, it not we want to get mad just when white people say it, we do, because everytime a white person does say it, it is a term of racism.

That's why we get offended, and you can't think of yourself just, because when you say it, black people get mad and you don't mean it that way, every white person make it seem as a term of racism so that is what we will take it as.(I'm only half black)

I'm gonna take apart your argument. It's a bit disorganized. I'm just going to space it out.

1. I addressed this earlier

2. So are you saying that black people are one person? Because that's what the comparison you're making is.

3. Please restate this, I can't understand it.

[Shadow]

We, say ***** not ******. Its like when somebody calls you stupid or retarded you get mad, but when you call yourself stupid or retarded your feelings don't get hurt at all, it not we want to get mad just when white people say it, we do, because everytime a white person does say it, it is a term of racism. That's why we get offended, and you can't think of yourself just, because when you say it, black people get mad and you don't mean it that way, every white person make it seem as a term of racism so that is what we will take it as.(I'm only half black)

Just because a white person says it automatically makes it racist? Where's the logic in that?
What if he/she is just trying to get along.

It's hard to see how two black people can say it when referring to one another, and when white people say it it automatically turns into a racist matter.

[Smithno13]

We, say ***** not ******. Its like when somebody calls you stupid or retarded you get mad, but when you call yourself stupid or retarded your feelings don't get hurt at all, it not we want to get mad just when white people say it, we do, because everytime a white person does say it, it is a term of racism. That's why we get offended, and you can't think of yourself just, because when you say it, black people get mad and you don't mean it that way, every white person make it seem as a term of racism so that is what we will take it as.(I'm only half black)

Maybe you do, but the black kids at our school say "******"
I even saw a shirt today that said "I got 99 problems but my ****** aint one"

[Souleater]

Maybe you do, but the black kids at our school say "******"
I even saw a shirt today that said "I got 99 problems but my ****** aint one"

this is exactly what i mean. the word has created nothing but pure ignorance in the world. its become a card that people of color play when they feel that they have been wronged. no has been wronged. this is the fact, its ignorance. all that slavery shit, it happened well over a hundred years ago.
get over it, both parties, let it go. move the fuck on. 'nuff said.

[Souleater]

we don't say ****** get your facts straight, that word is used to call blacks ignorant.

we say *****. and none of the blacks find it offensive, when whites say whats up *****.

when thy say ****** we do.

1st things first, that is bull-shit. i have friends that are both black and white and i have heard the white guy say ***** and he ended up getting decked for it, he even exaggerated the a at the end just to show that there was no "er."

no matter what it is a one-sided bull-shit. no person should use the word, that is all there is to it. the whole idea that changing the ending of the word 100% changes the meaning of the word is bull-shit.

get over the word. it is not a big fucking thing. its just ignorant babble.

[Souleater]

then he said it to a person with low tolerance

tolerance made no difference in this. it is just pure ignorance to say the word, that is it. no person has any right to say that word. no person. period.

high tolerance. low tolerance, no tolerance, there is no reason to say that word to anyone whats-so-ever.

[Slash]

we don't say ****** get your facts straight, that word is used to call blacks ignorant.

we say *****. and none of the blacks find it offensive, when whites say whats up *****.

when thy say ****** we do.

****** is the root word of *****.
I laugh at your logic.

Since ***** is okay, I guess I could walk up to one of the worst schools in my town, find someone who is black with a shit load of muscle, and say "hey *****", and nothing will happen to me?

[Souleater]

****** is the root word of *****.
I laugh at your logic.

Since ***** is okay, I guess I could walk up to one of the worst schools in my town, find someone who is black with a shit load of muscle, and say "hey *****", and nothing will happen to me?

according to Rape's logic as long as you pronounce it -a at the end its ok, not racist and he will welcome you with open arms with a hug and kiss and maybe a cookie and a reach-around.

think about it Rape. if any white person walked up to you that you didnt know and said, hey whats up *****? you wouldnt get offeneded. seriously, it will never be just a term of endearment, it will always be a term of race because true racists, which are the people who think the word is racist in the first place, say it is. its not racist anymore, its just fucking ignorance. i dont know what language to say it in, but ill try it this way, lamens: It. Eese. Igno-rant. Shi-t. Get. Ovar. Eet. (it is ignorant shit. get over it. get it now?)

its just ignrant and shouldnt be used. are you not getting it yet? there is no acceptable medium for that word. just dont use it and you wont look like an ignorant fool. i dont know how to break down any further then Barney style for you dude.

[Ash]

We, say ***** not ******. Its like when somebody calls you stupid or retarded you get mad, but when you call yourself stupid or retarded your feelings don't get hurt at all, it not we want to get mad just when white people say it, we do, because everytime a white person does say it, it is a term of racism. That's why we get offended, and you can't think of yourself just, because when you say it, black people get mad and you don't mean it that way, every white person make it seem as a term of racism so that is what we will take it as.(I'm only half black)

I wonder if people who are slow get offended when the word retarded is used, because if thats the case they are hated on alot more then minorities...

[Binary]

I wonder if people who are slow get offended when the word retarded is used, because if thats the case they are hated on alot more then minorities...

Those who are offended by the word retarded don't know what it means as it just means slow, which is why it is called mental retardation.