Quote Originally Posted by C0FFINCASE View Post
Its only ignorant if you assume that god is the how rather than the why and then also if you assume that god is with in the universe rather than apart from it.

You should get your facts straight.
Considering the universe is continually expanding out into a vast nothing makes it infinite. There is a set amount of "stuff", but not set amount of space between that "stuff" and we're still expanding with matter and energy constantly switching state. The reason its infinite stems from the fact that the universe adds up to zero. Mater and energy are the same and there is an equal amount of matter and antimatter in the universe. We amount to nothing.
Dark matter is not nonexistent or on another spectrum, it just doesn't emit or scatter light. It helps explain gravitational anomalies, we're not sure it exists. Large numbers of scientist think we just don't understand gravity yet.
As far as multiverse theories, we don't know they exist either. I think they do and I think black holes link us to ones close to ours and that the big Bang is the result of a bumping of universes. If that's the case that other universe is god. We don't know what our universe looks like from the outside. We could be a small part of a sentient being and never know. Hell there could be a million billion universes in your fingertip and you'd never know.


Yeah, the biblical god isn't real but hat doesn't eliminate god. Still Christianity is on to something with the god is elsewhere and we're here. That's the only way it could have happened. If God were aliens, then they're still god, what makes them misrepresented. They made us and they're god. That's kind of how it works. Though I hope we're not living out the plot of Stargate.

Any way, your argument for the lack of god isn't very compelling since it doesn't really argue against god, just parrots science. Science doesn't try to disprove god. Actually it avoids doing that as all but like five scientist will tell you. The only scientist of consequence that ever said god didn't exist is Stephen Hawkings and he too assumed god would be in the universe and that makes his argument moot to me. I mean if you build a fish tank and put fish in it, are you in the fish tank? Hardly. If that fish tank feeds the fish and cleans itself then you don't have to ever reach in. How would the fish ever know you created the tank and them? Does the fact that liquid mechanics take place and allow the fish to move then disprove you made the tank or put them there.
Even evolution isn't compelling since it too can be the how and not the why. Did god actively manipulate evolution but if god sets up the laws of physics, evolution, ect and then lets it run knowing how it will go how do you disprove that? Put simply, you can't. I can't prove god but don't for a second think you have any thing near to proof there is no god.

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Freewill



The fact you have freewill and he doesn't control you



You exist



Story meant to illustrate God created you, not history lesson.



He knew people would sin


There is no sin, only the absence of good . If you chose to withhold good that is your choice, not god's.
the only multiverse theories are even considered theories at all is because human science can only prove things with numbers, not set out and do them or show a proof of concept.

As for the "universe still expanding" That means timespace is either increasing, or stretching If more timespace is created automatically by some unwritten law of physics to occupy any and all absences of space (Subvaccume effect on a new level?) Then that would mean, There was an explosion, And we are still being pushed out, But if say, Our timespace is merely being stretched out like an elastic piece of material. Then who is to say that it wont end up sucking back into its center like a deflating balloon? As for antimatter, There is definitely No longer an equal amount, Now there is probably....5% antimatter and 95% matter. Though antimatter itself is still a theory as well.
What you stated is correct about darkmatter, Its essentially a blackbox of gravity, But as I said, People have theorized that in an alternate / mirrored dimension directly against our own, It could be a sign of a heavy object there. Such as a black hole. I dont honestly agree with it, but hey, It is out there in the science world.

~Anyways, I am simply going along with science, all these theories of "God" or "Godlike figures" And their activities, Are same thing written by people doing drugs daily while fucking goats and thinking that they could falloff of the edge of the planet as if it were flat. I dont know WHY anyone would believe nonsense concepts like "God" Other than the fact that it is so absolutely outrageous, That nobody can entirely disprove a gods existence.

The ONLY thing defending a god`s existence, is batshit claims about what a god is capable of and all of this other shit.
When over half of the shit, Was either proved wrong, Proved humans can do it to, or just plain disproven.


All we are waiting on is the ability to create matter from nothing, Then humans will become nothing short of gods. And when this happens. Will people still believe in god?