Do you B-leave in a God?

[Mota]

Well Do you?

[Taz]

Uh yes but not a freak about it. I believe in him but dont go around telling people about him and praying.

[Beyoncé]

I beylieve in Beysus

[Shell]

No. No. No. No.

[Mota]

No. No. No. No.

why ?

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Uh yes but not a freak about it. I believe in him but dont go around telling people about him and praying.

Same here .

[Shell]

why ?

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Same here .

How this world is. What happens to Innocent people. People are terrible by nature. Why would i god make that happen. Let terrible things happen to anyone. People cheat, steal, loot all at others expense. I'm not saying that everyone on this earth is a horrible person but a lot are why would they be put here if someone else was running the show.

[Mota]

How this world is. What happens to Innocent people. People are terrible by nature. Why would i god make that happen. Let terrible things happen to anyone. People cheat, steal, loot all at others expense. I'm not saying that everyone on this earth is a horrible person but a lot are why would they be put here if someone else was running the show.

Very True .

[C0FFINCASE]

How this world is. What happens to Innocent people. People are terrible by nature. Why would i god make that happen. Let terrible things happen to anyone. People cheat, steal, loot all at others expense. I'm not saying that everyone on this earth is a horrible person but a lot are why would they be put here if someone else was running the show.

Free will. You haz it.

I believe in God. Ultimately something made the universe. The intricacies of the universe and the sheer odd of things happening the way they have lead me to believe it was manipulated ever slightly for things to go in this direction. I'm inclined to believe that our universe bumped into another and that set off the Big Bang. I don't believe in miracles and I don't think God reaches down and changes the world. It certainly doesn't guide our actions. It gave us free will and we make choices. We run the show, if the world sucks its our fault.
Aside from that how would we ever understand a god? We can't even make what should be basic technological advancements for problems we create ourselves.

[Taz]

Free will. You haz it.

I believe in God. Ultimately something made the universe. The intricacies of the universe and the sheer odd of things happening the way they have lead me to believe it was manipulated ever slightly for things to go in this direction. I'm inclined to believe that our universe bumped into another and that set off the Big Bang. I don't believe in miracles and I don't think God reaches down and changes the world. It certainly doesn't guide our actions. It gave us free will and we make choices. We run the show, if the world sucks its our fault.
Aside from that how would we ever understand a god? We can't even make what should be basic technological advancements for problems we create ourselves.

Thank you coffin fir this

[Taz]

I always thought of it as someone put us here to see how would everyone act. Also basedgod took my bitch.

[Mota]

I always thought of it as someone put us here to see how would everyone act. Also basedgod took my bitch.

I was gonna say this but i was to lazy to type xD .

[Omlett]

I dont believe in god.

[Mota]

I dont believe in god.

reason ?

[Omlett]

reason ?

Dont have one, I just know theres no one above us.

[Mota]

Dont have one, I just know theres no one above us.

if that's what you think i have no problem lol.

[Shell]

if that's what you think i have no problem lol.

You sir have the problem.

[Chad]

One quote nails this question; "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation and is but a reflection of human frailty." - Albert Einstein

[Mota]

One quote nails this question; "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation and is but a reflection of human frailty." - Albert Einstein

So i see .

[Omlett]

Ill pay anyone of you $100 if you prove to me god exists.
Case and point, you cant.

Not bashing beliefs or anything, everyone believes what they want to.

[Mota]

Ill pay anyone of you $100 if you prove to me god exists.
Case and point, you cant.

Not bashing beliefs or anything, everyone believes what they want to.

There also is no proof that he doesn't exist.

[Taz]

There also is no proof that he doesn't exist.

Well one is no one ever saw him or how are we supposed to believe a book anyone could have wrote it.
I still believe in him even though no one ever meet him and came back to tell the story

[Mota]

Well one is no one ever saw him or how are we supposed to believe a book anyone could have wrote it.
I still believe in him even though no one ever meet him and came back to tell the story

That is also true,but can you explain people selling their soul to the devil for power? if there is a devil their must be a god.

[Taz]

That is also true,but can you explain people selling their soul to the devil for power? if there is a devil their must be a god.

How do we know there is a devil?
Some people are just evil and worship the devil like the "good" people believe in god.

[Omlett]

That is also true,but can you explain people selling their soul to the devil for power? if there is a devil their must be a god.

Anyone can sell their soul to the devil, but does that mean he exists? No.
Ive attempted to sell my sould numerous times, but nothing happened. So by your logic, if there isnt a devil than there isnt a god.

[Skrillex]

I believe in god. I Just hate seeing people throwing religion down peoples throat. Thats what gets me about being apart of a religion.

[Souleater]

Omlett think about what you said. Just because you have tried to sell your soul doesn't mean you went through the right methods.

I personally have no belief in religion any more. My reasons are more personal than just not seeing his existence.

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Omlett think about what you said. Just because you have tried to sell your soul doesn't mean you went through the right methods.

I personally have no belief in religion any more. My reasons are more personal than just not seeing his existence.

[Omlett]

Omlett think about what you said. Just because you have tried to sell your soul doesn't mean you went through the right methods.

I personally have no belief in religion any more. My reasons are more personal than just not seeing his existence.

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Omlett think about what you said. Just because you have tried to sell your soul doesn't mean you went through the right methods.

I personally have no belief in religion any more. My reasons are more personal than just not seeing his existence.

I didnt really try to sell my soul, I was kind of using that as an example to prove his logic wrong, mainly the idea that if one (god or satin) is alive that the other isnt.

[Mota]

Isnt this Mota?

yes problem?

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Anyone can sell their soul to the devil, but does that mean he exists? No.
Ive attempted to sell my sould numerous times, but nothing happened. So by your logic, if there isnt a devil than there isnt a god.

You must of done it wrong lol.

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How do we know there is a devil?
Some people are just evil and worship the devil like the "good" people believe in god.

true true like i said before people selling there souls and getting what they want.lol

[Taz]

yes problem?

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You must of done it wrong lol.

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true true like i said before people selling there souls and getting what they want.lol

Its not like they got the money from the devil himself they got the money from the people that are evil and worship the devil and trying to get you trship him too.

[Mota]

Its not like they got the money from the devil himself they got the money from the people that are evil and worship the devil and trying to get you trship him too.

i dont think you get what i am saying lol.

[Taz]

i dont think you get what i am saying lol.

Are you talking about the Illuminati?

[C0FFINCASE]

Ok, don't use Satan as proof of god. There is no Satan. There'd be no point, Satan would have been made by god and been less than go and thus doomed to lose. Satan is a human concept.
There is a supernatural or some sort. I have no idea how it function. I think it has to do with us interacting with a different dimension. I don't think you can sell your soul so much as manage to attach a entity from another dimension to your energy/life force/whatever.

You can't prove or disprove god really. Its just a matter of faith or opinion.
The best example I've ever heard for the existence of god is provided by Descartes and is a thought experiment that seems highly logical. He build off two prior meditations where he uses logic to surmise he exists and isn't a dream and that there are truths and he arrives at them by doubting everything. He determines that you can't use you external senses to define reality because they're flawed. Even your ideas are flawed but truths are not and they are the only valid beliefs. I'll provide the last part of it:
There are truths. Truths are things that are clear and distinct, existing outside of the self( ie 2+2=4). Any thing that is clear and distinct is a truth. You have judged yourself and all humanity as imperfect. The standard by which you do this is God. Your grasp of the infinite must be prior to my grasp of the finite if you are to make this judgment. The idea of God is completly clear and distinct and contains more objective reality than any other idea. But perhaps humanity is greater than you have assumed and so could be the cause of the idea of a being with all perfections. However the gradual increase in our knowledge shows that we are imperfect.

God becomes interchangeable with good for Descartes because God is good and only good. Its humanity that creates and drives evil, though evil doesn't exist. Evil is just the absence of good.

[CL0V3R]

In all honesty I don't believe in some omnipotent being. Especially not the one that is described in the bible. So in that sense, no I do not believe in any sort of "god".
I do believe in the possibility of there being some sort of flow to the universe and the way it works.

[Aleena]

Science has come far closer to proving there is no god and how the universe and everything was created.

Asking if a God is real, Is ignorant.

Creatures with the ability to create matter from nothing, Are considered "God" to science since they break the laws of physics.
However.
The laws of physics as we know, Are limited only by thee spacetime at that exact position in the universe. Where as some universes, Have completely different physics, And some positions in our universe, Also have different physics, Such as black holes. Mass x infinity = Bullshit in the laws of physics, Infinity cannot exist.

And yet, Despite that being a law, We see it in hundreds of thousands of places all across our known universe in the form of blackholes and dark matter.

Dark matter, is believed commonly to be a non-existent mass on a different light spectrum, Or possibly mass of an amazing greatness in a different universe.

God?...No. The type of god that exists biblicaly or through Norse, Are absolute bullshit. They are just misrepresentations of either previous existing beings on the planet, or aliens which were capable of manipulating our known physics or matter in ways normal humans could not, or simply Could have been the results of drug trips.


God is defined by perspective, Christianity and ect just makes you think there is a man living in the clouds watching you so the old man next door has an easier time watching you change cloths from the roof next door.

[Mota]

Science has come far closer to proving there is no god and how the universe and everything was created.

Asking if a God is real, Is ignorant.

Creatures with the ability to create matter from nothing, Are considered "God" to science since they break the laws of physics.
However.
The laws of physics as we know, Are limited only by thee spacetime at that exact position in the universe. Where as some universes, Have completely different physics, And some positions in our universe, Also have different physics, Such as black holes. Mass x infinity = Bullshit in the laws of physics, Infinity cannot exist.

And yet, Despite that being a law, We see it in hundreds of thousands of places all across our known universe in the form of blackholes and dark matter.

Dark matter, is believed commonly to be a non-existent mass on a different light spectrum, Or possibly mass of an amazing greatness in a different universe.

God?...No. The type of god that exists biblicaly or through Norse, Are absolute bullshit. They are just misrepresentations of either previous existing beings on the planet, or aliens which were capable of manipulating our known physics or matter in ways normal humans could not, or simply Could have been the results of drug trips.


God is defined by perspective, Christianity and ect just makes you think there is a man living in the clouds watching you so the old man next door has an easier time watching you change cloths from the roof next door.

Damn to much to read lol.

[zaxabon]

Damn to much to read lol.

This is why you do believe in god. You're too stupid not to.
God is an easy answer, so you take it.
It's obvious you haven't even read the bible, how can you believe in something you don't even know about?

edit; I can never get the hang of these types of forums.

[Mota]

This is why you do believe in god. You're too stupid not to.
God is an easy answer, so you take it.
It's obvious you haven't even read the bible, how can you believe in something you don't even know about?

edit; I can never get the hang of these types of forums.

I just said it was to much to read what you trippin about ?

[C0FFINCASE]

Science has come far closer to proving there is no god and how the universe and everything was created.

Asking if a God is real, Is ignorant.

Creatures with the ability to create matter from nothing, Are considered "God" to science since they break the laws of physics.
However.
The laws of physics as we know, Are limited only by thee spacetime at that exact position in the universe. Where as some universes, Have completely different physics, And some positions in our universe, Also have different physics, Such as black holes. Mass x infinity = Bullshit in the laws of physics, Infinity cannot exist.

And yet, Despite that being a law, We see it in hundreds of thousands of places all across our known universe in the form of blackholes and dark matter.

Dark matter, is believed commonly to be a non-existent mass on a different light spectrum, Or possibly mass of an amazing greatness in a different universe.

God?...No. The type of god that exists biblicaly or through Norse, Are absolute bullshit. They are just misrepresentations of either previous existing beings on the planet, or aliens which were capable of manipulating our known physics or matter in ways normal humans could not, or simply Could have been the results of drug trips.


God is defined by perspective, Christianity and ect just makes you think there is a man living in the clouds watching you so the old man next door has an easier time watching you change cloths from the roof next door.

Its only ignorant if you assume that god is the how rather than the why and then also if you assume that god is with in the universe rather than apart from it.

You should get your facts straight.
Considering the universe is continually expanding out into a vast nothing makes it infinite. There is a set amount of "stuff", but not set amount of space between that "stuff" and we're still expanding with matter and energy constantly switching state. The reason its infinite stems from the fact that the universe adds up to zero. Mater and energy are the same and there is an equal amount of matter and antimatter in the universe. We amount to nothing.
Dark matter is not nonexistent or on another spectrum, it just doesn't emit or scatter light. It helps explain gravitational anomalies, we're not sure it exists. Large numbers of scientist think we just don't understand gravity yet.
As far as multiverse theories, we don't know they exist either. I think they do and I think black holes link us to ones close to ours and that the big Bang is the result of a bumping of universes. If that's the case that other universe is god. We don't know what our universe looks like from the outside. We could be a small part of a sentient being and never know. Hell there could be a million billion universes in your fingertip and you'd never know.


Yeah, the biblical god isn't real but hat doesn't eliminate god. Still Christianity is on to something with the god is elsewhere and we're here. That's the only way it could have happened. If God were aliens, then they're still god, what makes them misrepresented. They made us and they're god. That's kind of how it works. Though I hope we're not living out the plot of Stargate.

Any way, your argument for the lack of god isn't very compelling since it doesn't really argue against god, just parrots science. Science doesn't try to disprove god. Actually it avoids doing that as all but like five scientist will tell you. The only scientist of consequence that ever said god didn't exist is Stephen Hawkings and he too assumed god would be in the universe and that makes his argument moot to me. I mean if you build a fish tank and put fish in it, are you in the fish tank? Hardly. If that fish tank feeds the fish and cleans itself then you don't have to ever reach in. How would the fish ever know you created the tank and them? Does the fact that liquid mechanics take place and allow the fish to move then disprove you made the tank or put them there.
Even evolution isn't compelling since it too can be the how and not the why. Did god actively manipulate evolution but if god sets up the laws of physics, evolution, ect and then lets it run knowing how it will go how do you disprove that? Put simply, you can't. I can't prove god but don't for a second think you have any thing near to proof there is no god.

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If God is all powerful, why can he not control his creations?

Freewill

If he does not want to, then what proof is there that he is all powerful?

The fact you have freewill and he doesn't control you

If he is not all powerful, why worship him?

You exist

If he is all knowing, why even have an apple tree in his garden?

Story meant to illustrate God created you, not history lesson.

If he did not know what would happen, why call him omnipotent?

He knew people would sin

If he did, then he created sin.

There is no sin, only the absence of good . If you chose to withhold good that is your choice, not god's.

[Mota]

Its only ignorant if you assume that god is the how rather than the why and then also if you assume that god is with in the universe rather than apart from it.

You should get your facts straight.
Considering the universe is continually expanding out into a vast nothing makes it infinite. There is a set amount of "stuff", but not set amount of space between that "stuff" and we're still expanding with matter and energy constantly switching state. The reason its infinite stems from the fact that the universe adds up to zero. Mater and energy are the same and there is an equal amount of matter and antimatter in the universe. We amount to nothing.
Dark matter is not nonexistent or on another spectrum, it just doesn't emit or scatter light. It helps explain gravitational anomalies, we're not sure it exists. Large numbers of scientist think we just don't understand gravity yet.
As far as multiverse theories, we don't know they exist either. I think they do and I think black holes link us to ones close to ours and that the big Bang is the result of a bumping of universes. If that's the case that other universe is god. We don't know what our universe looks like from the outside. We could be a small part of a sentient being and never know. Hell there could be a million billion universes in your fingertip and you'd never know.


Yeah, the biblical god isn't real but hat doesn't eliminate god. Still Christianity is on to something with the god is elsewhere and we're here. That's the only way it could have happened. If God were aliens, then they're still god, what makes them misrepresented. They made us and they're god. That's kind of how it works. Though I hope we're not living out the plot of Stargate.

Any way, your argument for the lack of god isn't very compelling since it doesn't really argue against god, just parrots science. Science doesn't try to disprove god. Actually it avoids doing that as all but like five scientist will tell you. The only scientist of consequence that ever said god didn't exist is Stephen Hawkings and he too assumed god would be in the universe and that makes his argument moot to me. I mean if you build a fish tank and put fish in it, are you in the fish tank? Hardly. If that fish tank feeds the fish and cleans itself then you don't have to ever reach in. How would the fish ever know you created the tank and them? Does the fact that liquid mechanics take place and allow the fish to move then disprove you made the tank or put them there.
Even evolution isn't compelling since it too can be the how and not the why. Did god actively manipulate evolution but if god sets up the laws of physics, evolution, ect and then lets it run knowing how it will go how do you disprove that? Put simply, you can't. I can't prove god but don't for a second think you have any thing near to proof there is no god.

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Freewill



The fact you have freewill and he doesn't control you



You exist



Story meant to illustrate God created you, not history lesson.



He knew people would sin


There is no sin, only the absence of good . If you chose to withhold good that is your choice, not god's.

I like how you explained this <3 .

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I refuse to believe in such an improvable excuse to not fear death.

Without the Bible, there is no proof of any kind of their being a god.

Then please explain people that die for a few seconds and live to tell what they saw when they died like this =