Quote Originally Posted by YYZ View Post
Didn't Obama like, end combat operations Aug 31?
Ok, its bull that combat is over. 50,000 armed troops are in Iraq. Receiving combat pay. Combat in name or not they fight and some will die. Obama is just fucking up the war effort. If we pull out of both as planned the region collapses and extremists are back in power in a year and pissed to hell at us. The war regardless of original intent or cost has stabilized an dangerous area. Our presence keeps Isreal from attacking Iran, we're holding Pakistan together which is keeping them and India from killing each other, and the removal of a brutal dictator, and ending of a high anti-american group that had taken over a state and thus had far too many resources and possibilities.
Afghanistan is still active combat.
The money is well spent, non-state actors are extremely dangerous. If you allow the groups like Alqeda to exist you end up with them taking over states and then expanding their control and reach till they are able to destroy their enemies in the same fashion a industrialized nation could.
Health care is bogus. Its more likely to bankrupt us than the war. We're in more debt from many other things than the war effort.