In response to coffincase

[Alexx]

Sorry not trying to spam or anything. my laptops just being weird with the quick reply on the other thread.. and i have a pretty high fever can't really think atm
my response:
thanks for the advice i really appreciate it.
What do you mean by tubes being a hassle?
and eh idk about the vypyr read iffy reviews on it.
I've also been seeing that tube amps are better than solid state amps?
I'm not really sure to be honest.
I just pretty much want a good amp that i don't have to waste more money on anymore.
I was actually thinking of getting the valveking and adding a boss gt-8 on it.
I'm not really sure though to be honest i don't really mind size or loudness i just want something versatile that will havee me covered.

[C0FFINCASE]

Tubes are a pain because they burn out and nothing but amps use tubes any more so they can be both expensive and hard as fuck to find.
Tube amps are no better than solid state amps any more. There was a point about 40 years ago when that was true. For some things some people prefer tubes but to use tubes, to really use tubes and get that sound and sweetness you have to overdrive the amp which means you have to turn it all the way up and crank the gain. It's not at all practical, and if you add effects you get into a huge fucking mess. If you're going for a Boss GT 8 you'd be wasting your money on a Valveking since all your sound will be coming from the from effect unit. Tubes are really finky with effects, particularly digital ones,which a lot of modern ones are and you can end up with a sweet tube amp and shit tone cause of your signal chain. Typically you have to skip the pre-amp on your amp(ie the thing that makes your amp sound good) and just use it as a speaker for effects based tone.

I don't know what reviews your reading on the vypyrs. They're held in good esteem generally. You could look into a Bandit as well, no one is bad mouthing those. Line 6 has some excellent modulation amps that are decently sized. I don't like their controls as much as I like Peavey's though but that's a personal thing.

To save you some money I'd suggest you go Boss ME -70 rather than GT-8. Lot less money and much easier to use. You don't get as much but you get as much as you'd ever actually use.

You should care about loudness/wattage and size. These become very important over the course of time. for make sure that you can actually use your amp.

If you're concerned about having something that works and keeps working and doesn't require money for ever, I definitely think you should go solid state. You have to replace tubes pretty regularly, and like I said they cost money.

Ultimately gear, amps, guitars are not things you get to buy and then you just stop butting money into. Your needs and style of play change overtime.

I highly recommend you limit your expenses now and gt something versatile and small. I like the vypyr for you because you seem like you haven't been playing long and what you think you like sound, tone, effect wise now will most likely change in a year and in two years you'll probably actually have an idea of what things do and how they work and thus you'll be able to really hone in on something you need. Vypyrs that I've played on seem super versatile. They're modeling amps so you can literally turn a knob and make the thing sound like a full Marshel stack with that shred eq automatically keyed up, the you turn another knob and you have sweet auto wah or delay. So you don't even really need a effects unit. Of course if you want one, you can then either use the modeling in tandem with your effects or just tell the amp to go to a clean channel and use your pedal board for your tone.
I suggest you go to a music store and jam on a vypyr, try the 30, 60, or even 100 watt version. Play with the modeling amp part, the effects on it, yadda yadda. You may find it is all you need.
Modeling has become the new thing and it's been refined not only to a usable technology but a really great sounding one.

[Alexx]

Yeah damn you brought up very good points
I looked up youtube videos today with people using the vypyr and they all sounded pretty good and than I checked out people who used the valveking 100 head and it sounded pretty damn shitty.. So yeah I'm pretty sold on the vypyr now although there's the vypyr Valve and just the regular vypyr do you know the difference on those?
And watt wise is there any difference between a vypyr 30 and say a vypyr 75w?
Also I saw some people use the Sanpera foot switch. is that really necessary?
Thanks for all this advice I really appreciate it.

[C0FFINCASE]

The valve ones cost more and have tubes in them, which is stupid cause it doesn't even use them really. just get the normal one.
The difference is the number of watts. 30 has 30 watts, 75 has 75 watts. That ultimately adds up to loudness/ air you can move with your speaker. I think Best Buy sells the 30w for $100. I think the going price on 75w is like $300. If you tell me what kind of situation you are in/want to be in as far as gigging I can tell you exactly how much wattage you need.
The footswitch is not necessary at all. You can always add it later if you feel you need it.

Welcome

[Alexx]

Well it doesn't really matter to me to be honest which one would you rather get?
and I checked out the Boss me 70 and it's pretty damn good

My first initial choice before even actually posting this thread was a peavey vypyr 75 but many reviews posted are saying they break down easily. and I saw a youtube video were it wouldn't turn on anymore after 2 days.

[C0FFINCASE]

Well it doesn't really matter to me to be honest which one would you rather get?
and I checked out the Boss me 70 and it's pretty damn good

My first initial choice before even actually posting this thread was a peavey vypyr 75 but many reviews posted are saying they break down easily. and I saw a youtube video were it wouldn't turn on anymore after 2 days.

I'd go vypyr 75, just the normal solid state. It'll model the tube sound for you any way so no reason to waste money.
I'd buy just the amp and spend a few months playing with it and then if you felt you still wanted something like the ME70 you can pick it up.

This is where I go for reviews. Typically people don't review on UG till they've had it for awhile and it's easy to see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't. I looked at a few other sites like musician's friend for reviews too. I did find a few negative reviews gripping about problems. They are few compared to the positive. It sounds like there was a defective batch a few years back.
The Fender Mustang apparently is very similar. You can look at those:

Fender Mustang III 100W 1x12 Guitar Combo Amp | Musician's Friend

I'm a fan of Sam Ash, Sweetwater, or George's Music if you have to order online.
I know people at Sweetwater and George's and Sam Ash tend to be the most recommended.
Best Buy, if yours has a music store, might have them cheaper though.

[Alexx]

Do you think I can get White Stripes Strokes pink floyd style sounds out of this amp?

[C0FFINCASE]

Do you think I can get White Stripes Strokes pink floyd style sounds out of this amp?

Yeah, sure. I think you can get anything you want out of it. Though that is the opposite of what you were originally talking about getting out of it.