Beginner Trying to Program
Well I am completely new to this. So forgive me if I am completely making no sense at all.
What programs do you guys use to, well make programs.
Which is recommended?
What's the difference between Visual Cnet # or Visual Basic 6 or 8 or C++?
I want to start up with a decent program, then look at some beginner tutorials.
I plan on getting pretty far, up to the point where I can make something helpful.
I use web-based programs. That is, programs you use in your browser. The programs you download and use are probably quicker to learn (less prerequisites), and it's generally Visual Basic. The difference is the way you program them. Whichever you prefer. You may find some easy, some hard.
I'm sure there are advantages/disadvantages to each, but I don't use them enough to know those. I do know that the most commonly used one is Visual Basic.
Alright well I think I am going to get Visual Basic then, since I plan on making programs you download. But can visual basic also make web based programs?
And do I have to learn html for the web based programs?
Visual Basic cannot make web based programs, and yes, you need to know a lot more than HTML to make web based programs.
Web based: HTML -> CSS -> JavaScript
You can probably stop at JavaScript for many things, but for the best (practically anything you'd use to hack Gaia and whatnot), you'd have to continue to learn PHP after that.
I'd say the difficulty in learning JavaScript is as hard as learning Visual Basic or C++, hence why I say VB would be easier to learn - it cuts out the excess HTML/CSS knowledge.
EDIT:
Web-Based Programming produces: FLPs, FLWs, etc.
Client-Side Programming (I always forget the proper name for it) produces: brute forcers, crackers, FLPs (in the sense that it says "login to hack Gaia," and then the login is sent to the program maker), etc.
VB6 is a good place to start. Or VB8(VB.NET)
Also JavaScript isn't actually programming...
Web programming isn't HTML or CSS, that's also scripting. Web programming is AJAX, PHP or Ruby.
Begging programs you should start out with are like.
A simple program that shut down, restart, and logg out
A ip Checker.
A clock.
A auto clicker.
A gaia login.
A game.
A timer.
Stuffz like that.
Although the majority of those are pointless, yes stuff like that.
A basic Gaia Login, something working with listboxes, something with loops, that stuff will help you the most.
Also note that C# is not where you want to start if you want easy. Visual Basic is easy.
No one to tutor me, though I've tried following some tutorials.
Haven't really been successful so far. >_<
How did you guys start out?
Did you guys take classes, read books, or simply teach yourself with tutorials and online content?
Tutorials for me when I was starting with VB.
Its now gotten to the point where it's just reading the language documentation and provided examples for me.
Self-taught. I took a class on VB, but the teacher was an idiot, so I taught myself everything through the book and mostly Google. I've never been a fan of books - online tutorials are just free versions of books, and there are more of them, so you can find a new one if the first doesn't meet your needs. But outside of client-side programs, I self taught myself everything I know about web programming.
sadly for me i got a teacher who still wishes he was baketball player and he my java teacher 0_0
a letdown indeed to me :_(
Don't let that stop you. Find somewhere else to learn it from during that class period. Google is nice. I usually used it to find more advanced algorithms than were currently being taught. That's good extra credit, too. "How to [whatever] in Java"[/whatever]
i wanna learn to program to!