Gov. Paterson's proposal to tax soda in New York fizzled, but President Obama says it's an idea whose time may come.
The President, in an interview with Men's Health magazine released yesterday, said he thought taxing soda and other sugary drinks is worth putting on the table as Congress debates health care reform.
"It's an idea that we should be exploring," the President said. "There's no doubt that our kids drink way too much soda. And every study that's been done about obesity shows that there is as high a correlation between increased soda consumption and obesity as just about anything else."
Early this year, a public uproar forced Paterson to abandon his plan for an 18% state tax on soda and other sugary drinks. With Obama having a hard enough time selling health care reform, the White House tried after the interview appeared to put the cap back on the bottle.
White House spokesman Reid Cherlin said a soda tax is "not something we've proposed." And an administration official went further, saying he "is not going to do so."
Still, Obama was willing to at least float the idea. Congressional lawmakers have considered soda taxes as one among many ways way to cover the cost of revamping the health care system, estimated at up to $1 trillion over 10 years.
Thomas Frieden, who Obama put in charge of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also has spoken up for the idea. In his previous job as Mayor Bloomberg's health commissioner, Frieden played a key role in promoting healthy habits, including the smoking ban in bars and calorie counts on fast-food menus.
As in Paterson's case, Obama's comments drew the immediate wrath of industry and consumer-choice groups.
"The tax code should not be used as a method for social engineering, and that's what this is," said Justin Wilson, senior research analyst for the Center for Consumer Freedom, which gets money from food and beverage companies.
Obama acknowledged that the idea could lead to charges that Uncle Sam is trying to dictate personal diets, but he hinted the benefit may be worth it.
"Look, people's attitude is that they don't necessarily want Big Brother telling them what to eat or drink, and I understand that," Obama said.
"It is true, though, that if you wanted to make a big impact on people's health in this country, reducing things like soda consumption would be helpful."
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I don't think soda should be tax..It just stupid..
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Thread: Should Soda Be Tax?
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:23am #1
Should Soda Be Tax?
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:27am #2
I actually think it should be.
There's a luxury tax, so why not apply it to soda? It's not necessary.
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:32am #3
Agreed with Kain.
And it wouldn't effect me anyways, i drink soda as a social drinker drinks alcohol, not very often. So it wouldn't have an effect on me.
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:35am #4
Also, I think it would help out my little brother.
He's getting a bit on the heavy side, and i think cutting out soda would help him a lot.
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:57am #5
I agree. People drink it way too much. If something needs to be taxed (and someting always needs to be taxed), soda's up there.
- 12 Nov. 2009 09:55am #6
Is this in addition to a pre-existing tax?
i.e. in Australia we have a Goods&Services Tax (GST) which applies to almost every good.
But yes, I think taxing certain goods that are extremely unhealthy is a wise move. Again, down here, tax on cigarettes and certain types of alcohol was increased substantially. A lot of the people that abuse these kind of goods are often unhealthy (especially late in life), and end up costing taxpayers quite a lot to support. I think it is only fair that they pay more.
I mean, high income earners get taxed more because they earn more. Isn't it only fair for other individuals to be taxed more because they cost more?
- 12 Nov. 2009 09:57am #7
Taxing goods like these is one way of saving on health-care costs, but whatever said and done,
"The tax code should not be used as a method for social engineering, and that's what this is," said Justin Wilson, senior research analyst for the Center for Consumer Freedom, which gets money from food and beverage companies.My contributions:
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- 12 Nov. 2009 10:01am #8
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They should do it
I always buy soda and i hate it when i see no tax
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- 12 Nov. 2009 10:02am #9
The majority is thick headed. Tax on chips, Soda, Candy and other fattening things should be tax'd just like Alcohol and Cigs should be taxed. If people want to live healthy but complain about health care costs. but if you eliminate those "comfort" food then you'll be a lot healthier. Just like back in 1950's
- 12 Nov. 2009 10:06am #10
commercialization and the like opposes reforms of this nature though, as previously mentioned.
If people want to live healthy but complain about health care costs. but if you eliminate those "comfort" food then you'll be a lot healthier. Just like back in 1950'sMy contributions:
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- 12 Nov. 2009 10:44am #11
- 12 Nov. 2009 01:09pm #12
If a pop is 79 cents Im not paying 90 cents for the added tax
I got water at home
- 12 Nov. 2009 07:49pm #13
I drink a lot of water anyways. Now it's when they start to tax my gatoraid that i will be upset.
- 12 Nov. 2009 09:39pm #14
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- 12 Nov. 2009 11:25pm #15
California charges CRV, not sure if other states do as well, and i think that is enough tax on sodas
- 13 Nov. 2009 12:21am #16
- 13 Nov. 2009 12:25am #17
Well with Obama's health plan, its gonna cost trillions of dollars. So, why dont e tax items that get people sick and are unhealthy for people. If they tax soda, people would buy and drink less soda, which would inturn decrease the amount of people who have diabetes
- 13 Nov. 2009 04:14am #18
McDonalds is already expensive enough, but organic and healthy food is still twice as expensive. If they made it cheaper for farmers to grow their crop and harvest it, it would be cheaper for us to buy healthier food, but it's not.
- 13 Nov. 2009 04:16am #19
Soda already is taxed at 7.5% by law of just any item... Why do you want pop's price to increase? I mean sure, the Government will rank in another 10billion dollars this year because of it, but who gives a shit? The government makes the cash. By making more they fuck up the system anyways. We pay plenty enough taxes as it is.
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- 13 Nov. 2009 04:19am #20
- 13 Nov. 2009 04:42am #21
- 13 Nov. 2009 04:44am #22
They tax you on dead peoples stuff?
Now this i did not know.
- 13 Nov. 2009 04:45am #23
I disagree. Putting a tax on soda would barely stop anything. I mean the tax is what 4%-6%? That wont increase the price by much
- 13 Nov. 2009 11:11am #24
- 13 Nov. 2009 02:52pm #25
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- 13 Nov. 2009 08:53pm #27
I dont agree.
And calling it a luxury tax is BS as well. You dont HAVE to eat fancy food either, you could just eat ramen and crackers, so why not tax all quality food aswell?LG's resident grammar nazi.
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- 13 Nov. 2009 09:09pm #28
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- 13 Nov. 2009 09:12pm #30
Oh its unhealthy?
Then start taxing cane sugar, corn syrup... Butter as well, chips, cookies, and everything else thats not in a "healthy" eating plan.
I could see taxing soda fast food as a whole, but taxing it at the grocery store is a bit ridiculous.LG's resident grammar nazi.
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- 13 Nov. 2009 09:16pm #31
Because there is an epidemic of soda drinking leading to obesity and health problems.
Tax = less buyers = less health problems as a result & more money for the government.
Taxing it at fast food is pointless, because the ratio of number of sodas bought from fast food to number of sodas bought from grocery stores is extremely low.
- 15 Nov. 2009 02:26am #32
Tax it. My sister loves soda, now if they tax it, we'll be doing something good for my sister because she wouldn't buy as much PLUS many other people addicted to the corn syrupy goodness.
- 15 Nov. 2009 06:49am #33
I think it should be taxed. Less people will start buying it, and that could possibly help decrease the obesity rate.
- 15 Nov. 2009 08:11am #34
- 17 Nov. 2009 03:39am #35
Hell no. But still many people buy soda so the goverment might put a tax on soda. But they better not D:<
- 17 Nov. 2009 05:31am #36
the tax on soda and othere botlled or canned drinks is just a big set up so when you go recycling you actually dont make a profit but the system works out
- 17 Nov. 2009 05:33am #37
dont tax the soda
- 17 Nov. 2009 01:21pm #38
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Theres a slippery slope.
Taxing Soda, then wut? Bread?
Hmmmph.
I'm against it,
not because i like cheaper soda;
but because it's just going to be a test of what they can get away with taxing ^^Consequentialism - A Firm Beliver In The End Justifying The Means (:
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Don't tax the soda, we kill you
- 18 Nov. 2009 09:34am #40
i agree, people should stop drinking too much soda, it may affect your tummy