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God is always fighting evil forces in the world.
God would not fight anything, it's god. It wold be all powerful. If god is real satan is a human construct devised to make us feel better about our imperfections.

@ Charles: I think the assumption that you could somehow understand or even begin to perceive god is presumptuous. I feel that evil is not a thing/event but a lack of good, like darkness is not a thing it is the lack of light. I also do not believe that god exists with in the universe. So I see no problem with the assumption that god is good and the world is evil, as I do not believe that god exists within the confines of the world and the absence of good/god is evil. My general understanding of god is that it must exist outside of our universe and is for lack of a better way to understand it the laws by which the universe came into being or rather the laws of that which surround our universe and brought it's set of laws into being.
It makes more sense to me that a god would not craft the universe in detail star by star, but rather think of a set of laws and conceptualize the way they play out and let it go. In relation to that I'm not entirely convinced we exist in the way we think we do either. We understand everything as physical yet we also know that if you really break down the universe and add up all the everything you come up with nothing. Mathematically we don't exist. All of that often makes me think that the reason you can't find god is that there isn't a god to find in the way we'd look for him since we'd more or less just be a thought and I don't think the moral argument comes into play there then because we're not in a world that god allowed evil in, we're a passing thought that because it exists in the mind of god essentially allows us to play out our universe's existence forever. I'm not real proposing we're in some being's dream but that we might not exist how we think we do and that the logic by which we understand our existence probably doesn't apply outside of it which I feel that that outside is most likely "god".