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I, personally, see nothing wrong with it.
Single parents are allowed to have their children, so why can't two fathers?
I don't see anything wrong with it, at least until the child get's picked on.
I agree with chad it'll probably eventually happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad
You have to think about the kid's future first.
As what's his face from family guy says:
"Let's face it, they're not getting the good kids anyway"
I don't think gay couples should be allowed to adopt. Homosexuality is recognized by the scientific community in every other species as a means of population control. When there aren't enough resources animals start engaging in homosexuality. Why we don't assume the same thing of people is beyond me, especially when we go on about it not being a choice so in my opinion nature is telling you not to have children if your gay so why would I give you one?
Also because of the way gay culture presents itself I don't feel that its a safe environment for children. Gay pride rallies tend to be lecherous and obscene and a lot of the activist present themselves in a manner benefiting a parent. I'm not saying gay couples can't raise a child I as well or better than some/lots of straight couples, I just believe we need to be limiting those allowed to have children not increasing that number. An in saying that it has nothing to do with population control, it has to do with the fact I don't think 3/4th of Americans are qualified to have children.
I think its wrong because the gay couple should know how people get picked on and beat up for being gay. Some kids will be embarrassed to be around their family because most people hate gay people. If their parents are gay then they probably will also turn gay.
If they adopt they should be ready for the future of their child if they really care about him/her.
And you think that a child would have a better time being raised in a group home with no one to give them the individual support they need? Yes, a child may be picked on because they have two fathers. But they could just as easily be picked on for thousands of other reasons. Children will always find something else to pick on each other about. And no, they will not turn gay just because their parents are gay. If that logic where true then there would be no gay people to begin with because they where raised by straight parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
@coffin Yes, I do believe homosexuality is a natural form of population control. However, that has nothing to do with adoption. They are not brining another child into the world. They are simply caring for one that already has been born and would have grown up in a group home with no individual care otherwise. Yes, some people would be horrible at raising children. But that has nothing to do with the fact they are gay. When a person goes to an adoption agency to adopt a child they must take a series of classes, pass a psychiatric exam, pass a background check, and pass an inspection in which a social worker spends 1 week with the family before they can even think of taking home a child. And after all of that, they still have regular visits from a social worker for a year after the adoption. True, there may be some cases where a bad parent slips through the tests. But that bad parent could just as easily been a straight person. It has nothing to do with being gay. As for the gay culture point. Not every gay person goes to parades or parties for gay pride. It is actually fairly uncommon.
As far as I am concerned, the matter is moot. Heterosexuals can adopt, and put up for adoption, and homosexuals are just going to complain until they are given the same rights as everyone else, but I of course feel that if gays have all of the same rights as straights, then a lot of things can and most likely will go awry.
Alright then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Souleater
No it won't. Life as we know it will function in the exact same way. The streets will not be filled with homosexuals wearing leather pants and clogs.Quote:
Heterosexuals can adopt, and put up for adoption, and homosexuals are just going to complain until they are given the same rights as everyone else, but I of course feel that if gays have all of the same rights as straights, then a lot of things can and most likely will go awry.
It is a completely different scenario. The children them selfs may not be gay. Not only this but I've never really seen a gay person being bullied I think you are exaggerating quite a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
You can't think for them, they may be more embarrassed about their father wearing clogs rather then him holding a males hand. It's natural for a teenager to be embarrassed by his/her family whether the parents are homosexual or not.Quote:
Some kids will be embarrassed to be around their family because most people hate gay people.
Do you have any evidence backing up this statement? And even if you did who cares.Quote:
If their parents are gay then they probably will also turn gay.
Every parent should.Quote:
If they adopt they should be ready for the future of their child if they really care about him/her.
Well i was just throwing that out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defy
I've seen plenty of gay people getting bullied.
8th grade a gay kid in my class got bullied, also in highschool.
But he was gay correct? Not his family? So that doesn't really have to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
Tell you what, you know how you're all worried about them being picked on and it's horrible for the child?
Well then anyone with any thing seen as any sort of "abnormality" or "deviating from the norm" should not be allow to have children.
Meaning anyone with curly hair should also not be allowed. As a child I was tease to no end about my hair, kids would even beat me up after school.
So should we now not allow children who have any chance of being teased into a family? Hell no. Honestly if the child can get into a nice loving family verse the shitty state care then those kids have a better shot at life. Children are cruel, they'll tease you for just about anything.
@Coffin: While I agree with the points that I think people should stop breeding and 3/4 of american's are too fucking stupid to raise children. I don't agree with lumping all gays in as lecherous perverts, taking off their shirts, and waving their dicks around. Most gay people I know never went to any of those rallies, in fact I know more straight people who go to those than any gay friends of mine. I believe stereotyping gays into this sort of label that's considered "obscene" is as bad as any other sort of ignorant stereotyping.
So if we don't want the children to get picked on, this means we should obviously not allow any overweight couples to adopt. After all, people do get picked on for being overweight. What about social introverts who read books a lot, and don't get out of the house often? They're weird, and get picked on. So they should also be banned from adopting kids. OH and what about parents with really bad acne? Oh goodness... >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
Like how straight parents only raise straight children?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
(much sarcasm in this post)
As long as gay's don't personally hit on me, Idc what they do.
I don't see the difference between straight parents and gay parents. I don't. Every individual raises children their own way. They are no different. They work and live the same way, hell, they just love a person of the same sex. Who the fuck are we to judge? Who the hell told us it's wrong? God? The bible? Puhh lease. I don't see the big point here. Why is it so disgusting and wrong? Please, please tell me.
What comes to the children, by the time others realize what it means to have two mothers or fathers, they will have a handful of other reasons to bully said child if they want to. If the child is made aware that some people might not accept gay marriage, might have different thoughts on it and that he/she shouldn't be offended by commentary from classmates or adults who as low as bullying a child, everything should be fine.
But that's just my opinion.
I believe gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt, considering homosexuality is a mental and endocrine disease. I believe gay people should be treated, and those cases which are too advanced should be killed. Now, back to adopting, seeing homosexuality is an illness, why should we expose our healthy children? If gay people want to adopt, they should get a low quality asian kid, which would either be a slave or gay anyway, so no one really cares.