Hurricane Katrina

[Souleater]

I think its getting to be ridiculous how its been almost 6 years after this storm, and people are still milking it for every drop its worth.

I get it, it was a bad storm, but they had 2 weeks worth of warning to get the fuck out of Louisiana, and they chose to ignore the warnings, so I don't feel sorry for these people.

What do you think?

[Google]

It is stupid to not leave but not everyone want to leave their homes. 6 years is a long time to rebuild.

[Sam]

I feel bad for them you should see some videos in youtube some people explain there stories with high details almost had a tear fall out of eyes and it is a hard work rebuilding i wonder if the economy problems will affect katrina victims i hardly hear anyone speak about this i can believe after 6 years people are still in this condition ive seen other countries get bad storms for example The Philipines had 2 bad storms struck on them and they seem to be fine now didnt take 6 years and also india i believe had some storms this year. My point is i dont think anyone cares at all thats the problem people depend on donations and the goverment only helps for reputation

[[DATA EXPUNGED]]

When I went to this thread, I was thinking someone necroposted a thread from years ago. I'm sorely disappointed.

But there's a reason why people are still clamoring about it. The Hurricane Katrina disaster was not a natural disaster. The only reason why it became a disaster was because of the poorly designed levees that were supposedly designed to withstand such a hurricane. The government basically alienated those people by building a half-ass wall and made it worse by not responding fast enough to the situation. If those levees held up, we wouldn't be talking about this and we'd probably forget this hurricane ever happened.

[Souleater]

I dont feel sorry for anyone Xoom. They had their chances to get the fuck out of dodge and they decided to stay because, they didnt want to leave all of their valuable stuff behind. Are you fucking serious? That is retarded. If their shit was so valuable, then why did they leave it in their house and go looting in the streets? All the money that is going to them is being used to rebuild a bunch of mud shacks that were wiped out by the hurricane. All of those people are basically getting new homes.

@Defy: Of course it wasn't as bad as the media made it, the media loves a disaster to boost their ratings. If they came on and said its not that bad, no one would watch their channel.


@Data: a wall can only be so effective when its built around walls when the area its built around is under sea level.
@Google: I get the people didnt want to leave their homes, but its retarded when you hear that a hurricane is coming through. Get out and rebuild later.

[chowchig]

Soul, some people believed to much in the governments levies. They said themselves that Katrina wouldn't destroy the levies, so people thought it wasn't a big deal. Also, some of them probably didn't believe the media, since they are known to exaggerate things.

[Souleater]

Soul, some people believed to much in the governments levies. They said themselves that Katrina wouldn't destroy the levies, so people thought it wasn't a big deal. Also, some of them probably didn't believe the media, since they are known to exaggerate things.

Believing in the govt., cool. but believing in the govt when a level 5 hurricane comes roaring through, that is more than just a leap of faith, that is straight up stupidity. especially when the govt said to evacuate. when the thing that they supposedly believed in told the levees are fine, they stayed, when the govt told them to get out, they stayed. That is due to their ignorance and stubbornness.

[[DATA EXPUNGED]]

Yes, there were some stupid reasons for them to remain in the city, but there were also people who were incapable of leaving the city because they were too poor and couldn't afford any transportation. A predominantly black city tends to have a lot of poor people. This is also the reason why there was a lot of looting.

[Souleater]

Yes, there were some stupid reasons for them to remain in the city, but there were also people who were incapable of leaving the city because they were too poor and couldn't afford any transportation. A predominantly black city tends to have a lot of poor people. This is also the reason why there was a lot of looting.

what about the govt provided transportation to leave the state when it became available when the hurricane came in? Its really not that far to get out of the proverbial "Holy Fuck-balls" zone. Its called get off of your lazy ass and move. Its not that hard to walk a few miles to a safe zone.

[[DATA EXPUNGED]]

what about the govt provided transportation to leave the state when it became available when the hurricane came in? Its really not that far to get out of the proverbial "Holy Fuck-balls" zone. Its called get off of your lazy ass and move. Its not that hard to walk a few miles to a safe zone.

Yes, a few hundred miles. These people were civilians, not soldiers. The nearest city to where evacuees went was Baton Rouge, which is almost 100 miles away and was still hard-hit by the hurricane. I'm pretty sure not even an army ranger could walk that many miles in two days.

And there were also not enough buses to go around, since the government failed to effectively utilize private bus companies in the evacuation. There were free buses(the public transit ones), but the others charged for the trips.

[Souleater]

Yes, a few hundred miles. These people were civilians, not soldiers. The nearest city to where evacuees went was Baton Rouge, which is almost 100 miles away and was still hard-hit by the hurricane. I'm pretty sure not even an army ranger could walk that many miles in two days.

And there were also not enough buses to go around, since the government failed to effectively utilize private bus companies in the evacuation. There were free buses(the public transit ones), but the others charged for the trips.

Army Rangers march about 25 miles a day, MarSOC Marines march almost 45 miles a day easy. So yes I can understand what you mean on that, but it doesnt diminish the fact that many people didnt even make an attempt to get out of the areas. Yes the govt. didnt intervene to help on the scale that they should have, but it doesnt excuse them from not even trying.

[C0FFINCASE]

Equally terrible storms hit Florida every year other and do comparable damage and we re-build. Some of us stay and others leave. Its a choice, people need to get over it. Most of the people left there stayed of their own accord and faced the consequence, granted they then demanded to be saved instantly.
Like Soul said, they had awhile to leave, poor or not. There was government funded evac and transport in the weeks before and even earlier they knew it was coming and could have started moving.
As to the way the government handled the situation: It was handled as best it could be. If I recall help was even turned down by the state to begin with. The fact the state government chose to build a stadium rather than make sure the levee system worked. We live in a republic, the states are very much independent and simi-autonomous with in their boarders, the nation government isn't really responsible for the messes with in states. They got the aid the nation could spare, we were kind of in a war. Red Cross rolled in, among other international organizations.

[La Vie Cruelle]

I have a few things to throw across. That I've seen stated.

- To get to Baton Rouge you have to cross water, and it's a 30 to 40 minute-ish drive. They don't allow you to walk on the cross-way under any circumstance. There is another way to Baton Rouge, but it's the opposite direction and you still have to walk over water (and in this state it's illegal to walk across these bridges). The ferries are almost always down in those areas too, they packed the fuck up and left early.
- ALL (and trust me, I mean ALL) evacuation sites were filled, so many people didn't have anywhere to go if they didn't have family. They have a limit of how many people they can take. As someone stated earlier, a lot of these people were too poor to leave or incapable of leaving. Some had no other choice, and others were just fucking stubborn.
- Those buses actually stopped after a day and a half, so people who waited to see what the storm would do were out of luck. Also, the lines for those buses were city blocks long, and not all of those people were able to get on them.

Now on to the rebuilding of it: I'm not surprised that it's taking this long to rebuild. The areas that were hit hardest were the poor areas. They lived paycheck to paycheck each month. What if you could barely make bill payments, then one day all you've ever owned was washed away? Also, I don't know about other areas; But I've been trying to get a job in Zachary/Baton Rouge/Walker/New Orleans for the past 3 months. No one is hiring, and if they are they want certified people with higher educations. Most people in these areas don't have that. There are so many factors that go into play as to why this area of Louisiana isn't rebuilt fully yet.

For the most part, New Orleans is looking nice. They are just showing you the abandoned/run-down poorer areas of it in the media, and making you think it's a shit hole still... Well it is, but not as bad.

BY THE WAY, most of the people who lived in New Orleans relocated elsewhere. The city's population dropped.

[B4ku]

Katrina occured six years ago. Its time for people to move on and to stop discussing this. The fact is, what happened, happened and anything we say now is not going to affect that. Its time for people to just let everyone mourn their lossess and rebuild. The media included.