How hard is it to learn how to program...

[Suicide Booth]

And if i were to learn how to program which language should i shoot for?

I'd like to use it for browser based Games like gaia fishing. I found this site when i googled gaia fishing hacks when i was on the john earlier....

And after lurking for a few hours i feel confident that this communites will help me on my quest for knowledge.
So Basically, im wanting to know what step one is in the process. (


(I think...)

Although, I would want to take it further than just browser based Games.

... Forgive any spelling errors, it's my shitty phone trying to auto correct me.

[GAMEchief]

Depends on what all you want to do. I personally use JavaScript for browser-based games, but it would require you learn prerequisite languages like HTML and CSS, along with many browser-based concepts like DOM and Ajax.

Most people (everyone except me), use languages like C++, Visual Basic, and Python. Those three would be your best bet that would require the least amount of background. As for which you choose, it'd probably be determined by what else you want to use your programming talents for outside of browser games -- such as if you want to go into the workforce as a programmer in the future.

[dead crawliez]

Thanks that information helped me as well ^_^

[Kingz V]

I would recommend python.

I've got loads of .pdfs that can help you learn the lang, and I can send you my gaiaonline project if you like.

It's pretty easy to grasp the concepts behind working with the site, but I'm still not sure how to break into botting the games.

[Awesomolocity]

I say learn HTML, CSS, Javascript, and then learn something like Python or C++. It's good to at least know some of the basics of HTML, CSS, and Javascript before you go into coding for something like Gaia. You may not need to create a whole website or something, but if you can read and understand what the code does, you're good.

[ya bish]

Depends on which program you start with.

[GAMEchief]

I say learn HTML, CSS, Javascript, and then learn something like Python or C++. It's good to at least know some of the basics of HTML, CSS, and Javascript before you go into coding for something like Gaia. You may not need to create a whole website or something, but if you can read and understand what the code does, you're good.

I'd say minus the JavaScript. JavaScript is great in that it is a programming language with C-style formatting, but it absolutely requires an understanding a DOM -- something that HTML tutorials unfortunately leave out. I think a basic grasp of HTML is good for everyone to have. It does and will continue to power the Internet as the standard document format. But if someone doesn't plan on investing serious time into JavaScript or its followup languages like PHP, then it is just a harder-to-learn and arguably-less-useful version of C++.

[CEEEJAY]

It all depends on what you start with .

[Butts]

Depends on which program you start with.

i beg your pardon?

[The Unintelligible]

It all depends on what you start with .

lol

[cyanide]

I'd say minus the JavaScript. JavaScript is great in that it is a programming language with C-style formatting, but it absolutely requires an understanding a DOM -- something that HTML tutorials unfortunately leave out. I think a basic grasp of HTML is good for everyone to have. It does and will continue to power the Internet as the standard document format. But if someone doesn't plan on investing serious time into JavaScript or its followup languages like PHP, then it is just a harder-to-learn and arguably-less-useful version of C++.

I agree I feel like trying to learn Javascript as a first programming (well, scripting) language would be very discouraging. It seems messy to me.

If I could do it all over again I think I'd learn Java first. You don't have trry about memory, pointers, etc, but you're still working with a language powerful enough to do most things you would need to do. Also if we're talking about bot making, Java is better out of the box than C++ for parsing DOM. In C++ I have to rely on some third party classes for doing that.

I know a lot of people are recommending C# these days as a first programming language but I've barely used it.

[HTML]

I agree I feel like trying to learn Javascript as a first programming (well, scripting) language would be very discouraging. It seems messy to me.

If I could do it all over again I think I'd learn Java first. You don't have trry about memory, pointers, etc, but you're still working with a language powerful enough to do most things you would need to do. Also if we're talking about bot making, Java is better out of the box than C++ for parsing DOM. In C++ I have to rely on some third party classes for doing that.

I know a lot of people are recommending C# these days as a first programming language but I've barely used it.

Javascript is a full blown programming language with server integration with Node.
How is javascript messy..? Just use standard design practices and it supports OOP like every other language.
You should probably take a look at Eloquent JavaScript: A Modern Introduction to Programming because you severely lack sufficient knowledge of one of the most popular languages in the world.

ALSO DEW JAVA IT'S FUN. SERIOUSLY, LEARN JAVA FIRST! You can make andriods apps, bots, make (shitty) websites etc. I started messing with it around 4 or 5 months ago and now me and a few buddies are developing a game with libgdx.

[Kingz V]

I've been thinking about learning more JS, because i've heard it's possible to run a bitcoin miner from a webpage.

[cyanide]

Javascript is a full blown programming language with server integration with Node.
How is javascript messy..? Just use standard design practices and it supports OOP like every other language.
You should probably take a look at Eloquent JavaScript: A Modern Introduction to Programming because you severely lack sufficient knowledge of one of the most popular languages in the world.

ALSO DEW JAVA IT'S FUN. SERIOUSLY, LEARN JAVA FIRST! You can make andriods apps, bots, make (shitty) websites etc. I started messing with it around 4 or 5 months ago and now me and a few buddies are developing a game with libgdx.

Javascript gets messy because of the rather clumsy and verbose way of manipulating DOM objects and its weird mixture of functional and procedural programming. It also likes to fail silently, which I'd rate as a major reason why it would be bad for a first language. And I dislike dynamic typing.
If you would notice, I said "it seems messy to me". If it doesn't to you, ok. But it still does to me. I've been using Javascript for 7 years or so so I'm not just pulling things out of my ass. I dislike the form of Javascript although it is better than it used to be. Everyone has their pet languages and then languages they don't like, and some people like some languages for exactly the same reason other people dislike them. Doesn't mean anyone's stupid or lacking knowledge.
Looks like you ended up giving him the same recommendation as me anyhow so I idk what the big deal is.

[dopehyung]

i think it's actually probably a personal preference. learning java wasn't all that messy or complicated when i learned but i learned html before i learned java so that might be why.

[cyanide]

i think it's actually probably a personal preference. learning java wasn't all that messy or complicated when i learned but i learned html before i learned java so that might be why.

Java and Javascript are two different things and people who don't know that typically don't know much about either language. And neither language is remotely similar to HTML which isn't a programming or scripting language. But like I said I do agree that it's mostly subjective although I'd argue that some of it is more objective: there are good reasons a beginner (or anyone, really, but especially beginners) should be wary of a language that likes to fail silently.