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Well I am completely new to this. So forgive me if I am completely making no sense at all.
What programs do you guys use to, well make programs.
Which is recommended?
What's the difference between Visual Cnet # or Visual Basic 6 or 8 or C++?
I want to start up with a decent program, then look at some beginner tutorials.
I plan on getting pretty far, up to the point where I can make something helpful.
I use web-based programs. That is, programs you use in your browser. The programs you download and use are probably quicker to learn (less prerequisites), and it's generally Visual Basic. The difference is the way you program them. Whichever you prefer. You may find some easy, some hard.
I'm sure there are advantages/disadvantages to each, but I don't use them enough to know those. I do know that the most commonly used one is Visual Basic.
Alright well I think I am going to get Visual Basic then, since I plan on making programs you download. But can visual basic also make web based programs?
And do I have to learn html for the web based programs?
Visual Basic cannot make web based programs, and yes, you need to know a lot more than HTML to make web based programs.
Web based: HTML -> CSS -> JavaScript
You can probably stop at JavaScript for many things, but for the best (practically anything you'd use to hack Gaia and whatnot), you'd have to continue to learn PHP after that.
I'd say the difficulty in learning JavaScript is as hard as learning Visual Basic or C++, hence why I say VB would be easier to learn - it cuts out the excess HTML/CSS knowledge.
EDIT:
Web-Based Programming produces: FLPs, FLWs, etc.
Client-Side Programming (I always forget the proper name for it) produces: brute forcers, crackers, FLPs (in the sense that it says "login to hack Gaia," and then the login is sent to the program maker), etc.
Thanks, I'm also looking over and reading this website.
Beginner's Guide to Programming - guidetoprogramming.com
Seems pretty helpful. For now I think I will try Visual Basic 6 to make executable programs.
VB6 is a good place to start. Or VB8(VB.NET)
Also JavaScript isn't actually programming...
Web programming isn't HTML or CSS, that's also scripting. Web programming is AJAX, PHP or Ruby.
Begging programs you should start out with are like.
A simple program that shut down, restart, and logg out
A ip Checker.
A clock.
A auto clicker.
A gaia login.
A game.
A timer.
Stuffz like that.
Although the majority of those are pointless, yes stuff like that.
A basic Gaia Login, something working with listboxes, something with loops, that stuff will help you the most.
Even a basic login might be too hard unless shadow has somebody thta will tutor him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nat
Or a tutorial...
You can make web based programs with visual basic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEchief
A good language to start off that I started off with is C#. Once you learn C# you basically know C++, Java, and any other language.
Also note that C# is not where you want to start if you want easy. Visual Basic is easy.
JavaScript is quite literally a programming language. HTML and CSS aren't, but the former is necessary in order to move on to JavaScript and PHP. Not technically for PHP, but for all intensive purposes, it's required for any sensical user interaction.
I don't mean it can't connect to the Internet, but I mean it's not browser-based. Web-based, as in, all you need is a browser and Internet connection to run it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad
No one to tutor me, though I've tried following some tutorials.
Haven't really been successful so far. >_<
Pretty sure you can. It has the option to create a DHTML project and some other online stuff. Never tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEchief
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Use youtube, Google, source codes and tutorials. Everyone has to start some place.
If you want some help with tutorials or other stuff MSN me: eye.program@live.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
How did you guys start out?
Did you guys take classes, read books, or simply teach yourself with tutorials and online content?
Tutorials for me when I was starting with VB.
Its now gotten to the point where it's just reading the language documentation and provided examples for me.
Self-taught. I took a class on VB, but the teacher was an idiot, so I taught myself everything through the book and mostly Google. I've never been a fan of books - online tutorials are just free versions of books, and there are more of them, so you can find a new one if the first doesn't meet your needs. But outside of client-side programs, I self taught myself everything I know about web programming.
I plan on doing the same GAMEchief.
Right now I am playing around with VB using this tutorial.
Write Your First Visual Basic Program
sadly for me i got a teacher who still wishes he was baketball player and he my java teacher 0_0
a letdown indeed to me :_(
Don\'t let that stop you. Find somewhere else to learn it from during that class period. Google is nice. I usually used it to find more advanced algorithms than were currently being taught. That\'s good extra credit, too. "How to [whatever] in Java"
I started out with google and youtube. And i have a big ass book if you want to buy it ><. I will sell it to you it has all the basics and advanced it helps you step-by-step if you want a book to read. And if you want help you can add me on msn just pm for my msn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
Google and Youtube are your best friends. Same with MSN. Try starting off with google. say you wanted to start out with Vb.net (vb 2008 and up) you would google, vb 2008 Messagebox, find what you need. Save some files on some source codes until you remember by heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by iFresh
Yes. And also save your source codes as text documents, if you have bad memory like me. Haha. I forgot how to do a lot of programming I used to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad
Why wouldn't you save past works...?Quote:
Originally Posted by iFresh
Obviously you would. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Essence
i wanna learn to program to!
Start with VB6?