Some of my chef instructors have been abusing their friendships on their students facebooks, using it to spy on what we do OUTSIDE of our COLLEGE.
Some of my classmates and I constantly joke/post about whats going on/are extremely perverted and mean to each other/bash each other playfully and what not. It's all good fun and friendship.
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- inside jokes between me and another girl where we say shut your skank/whore mouth.
- How they got confused me typing a friend's homework that they did themselves because i type faster, for me doing all their assignments myself
- How we signed up for an event on a Saturday morning, but 2 people had trk doubles the day before, and overslept therefore missing it (and we made the note that we were horribly bummed we missed it; they acted like we said "aw fuck that event, i'd rather sleep in"
- pictures of parties/vacations they don't like
They gave us a lecture today about what we post on facebook, and how we will get kicked out of school if they don't like what they see. W-T-F?! They are treating us like employees too. It's nerve-racking.
so i just edited my who the fuck can't view anything lists, and I was told to "unblock them". lolololol
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- 01 Feb. 2011 10:17pm #1
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It's pissing us all off that they started doing this shit and changing all the rules. No one wants to attend this school anymore because of recent events. I know we signed a contract with them and the fine print in it says they are allowed to change rules as they please, but fuck shit's going too far. We pay them way too fucking much for them to teach us, but we're being treated like shitty employees/aren't being provided with the material we EXPECT.
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- 01 Feb. 2011 10:31pm #5
My mom was told she would get fired over some things she had posted on facebook that 'defiled the company name' (complaining about having to get up for work so early)
So she blocked everyone. I had to help her set up the lists of people she trusted
- 01 Feb. 2011 10:31pm #6
Might I suggest a simple resolution to this problem?
Un-friend them.
I think it's creepy if my teachers want to be friends with me on facebook.
- 01 Feb. 2011 10:34pm #7
Haha, screw that. My University doesn't give a fuck and it's $50,000 a year.
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If you read the first post you would have seen that I changed all privacy settings to exclude them from viewing anything, and that they demanded to be unblocked.
@Tat- Mine's 32,000$ for 16 months, and that's because your university is large. My private institute is small and has established a name for itself in the business world rather than the educational world. They want their students to be flawless in their image.
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- 01 Feb. 2011 10:36pm #9
Or if you don't want to be involved with this, just don't use facebook for the time being, or do everything privately.
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I thought that unblocked and un-friended were two completely different things.
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Unfriended they may be able to still view the things you post on other's walls. By blocking them through custom settings they can't view any fucking thing I post anywhere. It pissed them off. They are still able to view basics like my religion, profile picture, birthday, and never-changing bio.
and not using facebook is not an option, seeing i communicate with my co-workers/family/classmates on there. The school can suck my e-peen.
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I think they're trying to simulate a professional working enviroment. If you recall the girls that posted videos of them using the McDonald's dish sink as a hot tub on their facebook, my guess is they're preparing you to ensure that you don't do the same shit. There's also the whole controversy over posting shit about your employers that'll get you fired scenario they're drilling into you.
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The entire administration is in on it. The Owner of the school & head chef told the chef instructors to do this. This isn't a normal college, it's a privately owned free to do as they please college focused on one type of degree.
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But the thing is, we're not posting shit we do at school/say about our school. It's all our personal things. Hell my own boss doesn't do that shit, and he contributes to the calling me a whore/partying with me. I have never worked in a place that was worried about your facebook postings. It was always "if you sleep with the dogs, don't bring the dogs trk".
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Nope, we're just rebelling against them. We're trying to show them they are going to far, and that their assumptions are making them look like complete asses. Besides I only have 11 more months at this school. If they don't kick me out. Nothing in my contract says I have to open up my personal life to them. If they dare kick me out/deny me the education I pay for I am 100% CERTAIN my lawyer can find SOMETHING to sue them for. I have more than enough documentation of them breaking the contract.
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Honestly jobs and schools do this now. They say you represent them and your actions outside of their domain must exemplify what they represent because you somehow represent them at all times.
Even if you unfriend them they can use services to view your stuff any way. I personally say fuck off when it comes to that and tell them I'll take them to court over invasion of privacy, which the supreme court maintains is a right. My argument involves quoting court cases and precedents and they tend to back off, though in job cases they just fire you. The school won't have a legal reason to expel you though.
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I know Notre Dame is a private school, but it is also well-known school; and we only have 100 students compared to your 10,000. Therefore, your school is more known in the educational world; whereas my school is known by all the big restaurants and many places in Cannes, France. Since we go to the international film festival every year to cook for the American Pavilion. We're more focused on business, since it is a technical college.
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- 02 Feb. 2011 04:57am #22
Damn son. what you trying to major int?
@Jen, delete your facebook. wait a day, im sure they will say "why did you block/delete me".
just reply "I deleted my facebook". next day re-enable it, block/ delete them/change all of your settings to private, friends only. if they ask you the next day about a new facebook say its an imposter.
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- 02 Feb. 2011 05:32am #23
That'll teach you not to accept your teachers friend requrests.
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Probability of all 10,000 of your students finding a job in their field of study before they leave school?
Our's is 98% with a high-end business making well over what we expect. Many companies shudder at the thought of hiring fresh out of college kids into their fortune 500 companies unless they have something to prove.
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- 02 Feb. 2011 03:06pm #27
Some go into industry, others go into seeking a higher education. And really? Because all of the RAs in my dorm who aren't pursuing a higher education already have a job offer. My sister also has gotten a job offer, she's only a junior here, but she is gonna be working for Deloitte. Most people have job offers, and a lot get internships that lead to job offers. Like I said, we own. They don't mind hiring straight out of college.
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I have to agree. Most companies are looking to hire out of college because the graduates are trained in the newest techniques and have the most up to date knowledge and its still fresh in their minds. My friend is in his juinor year and Google paid him to intern for awhile and since then he's had several job offers and promises and could have work for Google if he'd wanted to move to Cali. He's currently going to intern at Microsoft this summer and they already said they'd be willing to consider hiring him if things go well.
- 02 Feb. 2011 06:13pm #29
In terms of the technology field, I think it would be best to go straight into industry and get some experience and then in a few years you go and get a master's degree so that you can expand your knowledge. Hell, I'm not even goin' to get my master's in Computer Engineering probably...I'm gonna work on an MBA.
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C0ffin's college plan:
I got my AA last semester, in two year I'll have a BA in poli. sci., a year later thanks to duel degree I'll have an MBA, and finally two years after that I'll have a Law degree. Effectively I'll have a degree from every possible level of education and have worn every style of academic robe. The logic behind it is that I can literally work in any field at that point in an administrative position or I can become a politician or I can practice law.
- 02 Feb. 2011 09:33pm #31
What they're attempting to achieve is a huge invasion of privacy. It's parallel to demanding your cell phone and then reading all of your text messages. Unless your school has a policy where they can choose to dismiss you on no grounds whatsoever, what they're attempting to do is unlawful. If you know any lawyers, talk to them.
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I hope you realize the layoff percentage for straight out of college students in companies like this. These companies only want to drain these kids, not make them succeed.
I also hope these universities aren't feeding you these happy, succeeding thoughts and internships in your head to get more money out of you as well. :/
Because if you haven't noticed, the number of people obtaining college degrees has skyrocketed the last decade. More degrees of the same type floating around doesn't make you more qualified than the next guy. The percentage of college graduates without jobs has been on the rise for years. Unless you're getting with a large corporation that has a 25-200% layoff rate, or you stand out from the average joe, than I highly doubt these "fresh out of college" kids are going to land the jobs they want that easily.
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- 03 Feb. 2011 03:54pm #36
Never heard of a single Notre Dame graduate getting laid off.
Most of us are successful, look at our rankings. #1 Undergraduate Business, #18 University overall.
And also, we are more qualified than the rest...way more qualified. When you are hiring, whuld you want? A guy from a business school that is ranked #1 or a guy from the technical college who isn't even ranked in the top 100? No layoffs for us, they will be first to layoff technical college kids (like yourself) whose degrees have less value/worth than those from a higher ranking institution.
- 03 Feb. 2011 04:02pm #37
I highly doubt they would care about what school you came from unless if it's in the top 10.
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Otherwise, it depend on your personality and how you work.
Someone from a shitty college but with knowledge will probably beat the one from a better school with shitty personality.Last edited by Google; 03 Feb. 2011 at 04:09pm.
- 03 Feb. 2011 04:33pm #38
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I'm in the top 20.
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I went to University of Maine in Farmington, and it was about 20k a year but its a private college and its kinda small but they were wicked strict. >.< However the administration never pulled what yours is doing. Regardless of what kind of school you go to therey cannot order you to show them your facebook or penalize you for its contents. Some business do monitor employees social networking pages to determine if an employee may be a problem for a company, however they go directly through the site's admins to access that, they do not become facebook friends with the employees. Whilw I'm not familiar with Louisiana's laws what you have described is a rather serious violation of your privacy, not to mention harassment. I reccommend speaking to an attorney that deals with these kinds of issues and file suit if something ends up becoming against the law.
Also, if they kick you out for anything regarding the facebook issue and if the above action was illegal to begin with take it public and the media will probably scoop it right up and take your side.Last edited by DarkEternity; 03 Feb. 2011 at 06:29pm.
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^This.
@Tat- Honey, I've seen yale graduates get denied jobs because of their piss-poor work ethnics/personality. Kids from these top schools think too highly of themselves. It's not about whether you're in the top schools or not, and I really think people don't understand that. Sure, pay your overpriced tuition costs to get the same degree and certifications as someone from another learning institute just to say, "Yea I attended THE BEST, and in my opinion I am THE BEST"; but are you really the best?.
In the end, they look at you, not your school. Since it's you that's the direct image of the business. And trust me, doesn't matter where you're from, where you went to school, who you're working for; even graduates from the top schools get laid off. If you're so blind to acknowledge even that simple information than you really need to wake up to the world. You would think that the first thing they would teach you in the "number 1 business school" is that anything is probable, and nothing is ever certain.
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