Programing is fucking difficult. D;

[iMrT]

Seriously. I spent 2 hours on some stupid web browser.
I still didn't get it to do what I wanted.
Programmers on this site just earned loads of respect from me.
How do you guys have so much patience? x.x

[Elliot]

What where you trying to get it to do? And what language are you programming in?

[TEMPTii]

Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
'textbox1.text = "http://google.com"
Webbrowser1.Navigate(textbox1.text)
End Sub

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And yet, they don't get paid nearly enough for what they do as a profession.

[Chad]

Position Title Entry Level Mean Experienced
Computer System Engineer Salary $52,242 $65,238 $75,511
Computer Programmer Salary $52,496 $63,201 $73,604
Software Engineer Salary $58,179 $69,707 $80,369
Software Programmer Salary $52,496 $63,201 $73,604
Systems Analyst Salary $52,401 $63,090 $73,513
Technical Support Specialist Salary $55,802 $67,031 $77,383
Web Developer Salary $59,029 $66,081 $74,215
Webmaster Salary $57,078 $66,135 $74,264

[Eli]

Finally someone who understands that it's difficult D;<

That's why I gave up on it and went to gfx

[TEMPTii]

Finally someone who understands that it's difficult D;<

That's why I gave up on it and went to gfx

I just did both.

[Eli]

I just did both.

Yay for you, I don't have the patience for programming.

[Chad]

If you guys think Vb6 is hard and Vb.net then I feel sorry for you.

[Eli]

If you guys think Vb6 is hard and Vb.net then I feel sorry for you.

Haven't done anything since I was ten, so maybe it'd be easier now?

Oh yeah, if your so damn great, then get off of you lazy ass and code something!
Bman was the only programmer that actually WORKED on anything.

[Kain]

Oh yeah, if your so damn great, then get off of you lazy ass and code something!
Bman was the only programmer that actually WORKED on anything.

Fucking.
This.

[Chad]

Haven't done anything since I was ten, so maybe it'd be easier now?

Oh yeah, if your so damn great, then get off of you lazy ass and code something!
Bman was the only programmer that actually WORKED on anything.

Love how people say I don't do anything. Go talk to Bman and ask how long I worked on several different bots last night?

[Eli]

Love how people say I don't do anything. Go talk to Bman and ask how long I worked on several different bots last night?

Then post them.
I don't give a crap if you worked on something.
If your not going to contribute it, don't bother being a programmer for this site.

The only work I ever saw of yours, was possibly 1, maybe 2 programs in UG bronze.

[Chad]

Then post them.
I don't give a crap if you worked on something.
If your not going to contribute it, don't bother being a programmer for this site.

The only work I ever saw of yours, was possibly 1, maybe 2 programs in UG bronze.

Even if I did post them, you wouldn't be able to see them.
And why should I contribute to a forum full of people like you?

[Bman]

Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
'textbox1.text = "http://google.com"
Webbrowser1.Navigate(textbox1.text)
End Sub

Not programming. Thats the English language. get a real language.

If you guys think Vb6 is hard and Vb.net then I feel sorry for you.

I love you even more.

Haven't done anything since I was ten, so maybe it'd be easier now?

Oh yeah, if your so damn great, then get off of you lazy ass and code something!
Bman was the only programmer that actually WORKED on anything.

Me and chad spent 7 hours working on bots last night, please dont dis him

[Eli]

Even if I did post them, you wouldn't be able to see them.
And why should I contribute to a forum full of people like you?

Then post them for the people in UG that are not like me.

I don't need or want your programs, however the other users of the site do.
Without bman, we have no active programmers anymore.
If your going to stay at your current position in this matter, and say your a programmer for LogicalGamers, meanwhile you contribute nothing, then please be downgraded to the normal user rank, where you will not be obligated to contribute your work, and you can code all the crap you want without having to contribute it to people who you apparently dislike very much since you associate them with me.

@Bman
Then why the hell doesn't he post them?
He must have buttloads of programs, that are un-released that could be desperately used at LG's current state of trying trk up to it's former glory.

[Kain]

Elirocks +1

[TEMPTii]

Not programming. Thats the English language. get a real language.



I love you even more.



Me and chad spent 7 hours working on bots last night, please dont dis him

Don't say C# is real, it's the same thing just with braces containing things and semicolons at the end.

[Bman]

Chad just doesnt want to post something unless its perfect, trust me, I have seen the work he can do. Its really good. Like, amazing.

He didnt get his title by doing nothing, neither did riddle. You guys dont harp on him. Or chris.

So just back off. Hes making something that will mind fuck you.

[Bman]

Don't say C# is real, it's the same thing just with braces containing things and semicolons at the end.

Its BASIC Syntax, learn something more stable, the processing time for VB is horrible, just move on to bigger better languages.

Its the same OOP syntax for almost all languages out there. And when you know C# you can catch on to others fairly easy.

[TEMPTii]

Its BASIC Syntax, learn something more stable, the processing time for VB is horrible, just move on to bigger better languages.

Its the same OOP syntax for almost all languages out there. And when you know C# you can catch on to others fairly easy.

I know the processing time for VB is horrible. All I did was make a wrapper out of HTTPWebRequests and the GUI freezes until it dies. I don't program because I'm gonna be the greatest programmer ever or something, I just make programs to contribute to this site.

And I will move to C# in the future because of VB.Net's limited capabilities with communicating with other applications.

[Torian]

Stop ripping on LG's lifeline guys, they're working on a few big things for this site at the moment, and they don't need all of the negativity. Thanks.

[TEMPTii]

Stop ripping on LG's lifeline guys, they're working on a few big things for this site at the moment, and they don't need all of the negativity. Thanks.

+ 1

[Chad]

Stop ripping on LG's lifeline guys, they're working on a few big things for this site at the moment, and they don't need all of the negativity. Thanks.

<3 .

[Eli]

I've seen riddle, chris's, chad's, and your work.

You were the only one to post anything continuously.
These guys sit around saying they are going to post something worth while and never do.

Even if it is something stupid and small, then post it.
LG's current state of affairs cannot wait 5 months from now for a program that will "mind fuck" me.
We have a small community that is continuing to deteriorate, we need all the help we can get, and our programmers (not including gamerforce) do nothing.

Drama ends now, I'm too tired to continue this.
I stated Lg's state of affairs, period the end.

Sorry for blowing up the lifeline.
Bye nao.

[Torian]

I've seen riddle, chris's, chad's, and your work.

You were the only one to post anything continuously.
These guys sit around saying they are going to post something worth while and never do.

Even if it is something stupid and small, then post it.
LG's current state of affairs cannot wait 5 months from now for a program that will "mind fuck" me.
We have a small community that is continuing to deteriorate, we need all the help we can get, and our programmers (not including gamerforce) do nothing.

Drama ends now, I'm too tired to continue this.
I stated Lg's state of affairs, period the end.

Sorry for blowing up the lifeline.
Bye nao.

Derp, we are aware of what's happening to LG, hence why we're constantly trying to improve upon it and make it fun again. Programmers have a newly set up programming schedule that lists what they're working on and how long can we expect it to take so they are being worked at the moment. Currently badgering Alex to fix the errors associated with uploading any plugin so that we can improve the forum even further.

I know that staff to user communication is important, and I admit that we're slacking in that department, but rest assured, things are getting done to ensure the continuity of LogicalGamers.

[[DATA EXPUNGED]]

Position Title Entry Level Mean Experienced
Computer System Engineer Salary $52,242 $65,238 $75,511
Computer Programmer Salary $52,496 $63,201 $73,604
Software Engineer Salary $58,179 $69,707 $80,369
Software Programmer Salary $52,496 $63,201 $73,604
Systems Analyst Salary $52,401 $63,090 $73,513
Technical Support Specialist Salary $55,802 $67,031 $77,383
Web Developer Salary $59,029 $66,081 $74,215
Webmaster Salary $57,078 $66,135 $74,264

Accounting:

Position Big 4 Firm Overall Typical Experience
Entry Level $55,000 $50,000 - 70,000 First year
Junior Staff Accountant $46,000 - 63,000 $40,000 - 80,000 1-2 years
Senior Staff Accountant $65,000-95,000 $70,000 3-5 years
Manager $65-140,000 $85,000 5-7 years
Senior Manager $72-160,000 $115,000 7 years plus
Partner $200,000 - 3,000,000 $150,000 10 years plus

I worked in the accounting department for a company for 4 years, so I know how piss-easy they have it. I also looked at their programming department. They do not look too happy.

[Chad]

Accounting:

Position Big 4 Firm Overall Typical Experience
Entry Level $55,000 $50,000 - 70,000 First year
Junior Staff Accountant $46,000 - 63,000 $40,000 - 80,000 1-2 years
Senior Staff Accountant $65,000-95,000 $70,000 3-5 years
Manager $65-140,000 $85,000 5-7 years
Senior Manager $72-160,000 $115,000 7 years plus
Partner $200,000 - 3,000,000 $150,000 10 years plus

I worked in the accounting department for a company for 4 years, so I know how piss-easy they have it. I also looked at their programming department. They do not look too happy.

Why is that?

[ksrocks333]

I missed a lot.

[[DATA EXPUNGED]]

Why is that?

Maybe because programming is serious business. One logical error could mean project delays and/or another rescan line-by-line. If the program has 1000s of lines, there goes your 8 hrs of work; 8 hrs just carefully looking at code line-by-line, trying to find that one mistake, while the manager boisterously reminds you of the deadline. Project delays could mean a big money loss for a company, which could lead to lay-offs. Yep, big pressure in the programming department.

Well, there was this one Eastern European dude who seemed pretty happy. It's probably the vodka.

[iMrT]

Lol. I just love the way this thread went.
It twisted into something I didn't even expect.

I've known Chad before LG, He knows what he's doing.
Bman is just awesome at what he does.
So is Tempi and everyone else who has contributed to LG through programing.
You really are an intelligent group of people and I completely respect you for the hours upon hours of work you do for this site.
Every little speck of a program you make gives everyone on LG one more reason to look up to you guys.

[Zodiac]

I know right, i actually take the time to learn coding in vb 2008 so there is no need for them to stop doing what they wanted to learn.
Because it does take patience as what he stated in his post.

[Taz]

Why scream at the programmers if you cant program for yourself :\

[Kain]

Why scream at the programmers if you cant program for yourself :\

Why complain about crappy food if you can't cook?
Why complain about crappy music, if you can't write your own?
Why complain about politics, if you aren't a politician?

[Taz]

Why complain about crappy food if you can't cook?
Why complain about crappy music, if you can't write your own?
Why complain about politics, if you aren't a politician?

this is way different.

[TEMPTii]

Why complain about crappy food if you can't cook?
Why complain about crappy music, if you can't write your own?
Why complain about politics, if you aren't a politician?

Because we live in America.

[Eli]

Why scream at the programmers if you cant program for yourself :\

Because it's not my job to program for this site.
It's my job to be angry at the people not doing their job.