Yeah i know. i use to be a member along time ago (until my computer went all splody) now that i rejoined a couple days ago im still trying to figure out how things work now. almost all the bots, and other programs are gone. im assuming there in the underground bronze which didnt exist when i was a member before it was just the underground and vip and you got in to the underground just by meeting some guidelines you didnt have to apply. but anyway hope you enjoy your second time around lg.lol