gifting items.

**Hellsome** · 14 Mar. 2010 06:41pm

I'm just wondering, but what's the point in gifting items anonymously?

Can't Gaia still track them...

**iamwilliam** · 14 Mar. 2010 06:44pm

im guessing
if you gift anonymously and leave it there for months
they cant go back and see who you got it from

**Rundeer** · 14 Mar. 2010 06:45pm

It's easier than trading with a mule.

You could also gift items to other random people, just to throw Gaia off.

14 Mar. 2010 06:57pm

Just gift anonymously throughout several accounts and it would make it super hard to get banned.

**Rundeer** · 14 Mar. 2010 07:03pm

Originally Posted by Hickeys

Just gift anonymously throughout several accounts and it would make it super hard to get banned.

No, it won't. Gaia will just ban all of those accounts.

14 Mar. 2010 07:09pm

Originally Posted by Rundeer

No, it won't. Gaia will just ban all of those accounts.

Not necessarily if you are gifting anonymously though several accounts and trading them off in the exchange and then gifting those items to other accounts then they will become secured after a while, I have done this and yes it works got 5mil on my mule this way.

**master panda** · 14 Mar. 2010 07:43pm

when i gifted anonymously i still got caught

14 Mar. 2010 07:50pm

They can still track anonymous gifting. They invented it for surprise gifts, not for hackers to outsmart them.

**Rundeer** · 14 Mar. 2010 07:51pm

Originally Posted by Hickeys

Not necessarily if you are gifting anonymously though several accounts and trading them off in the exchange and then gifting those items to other accounts then they will become secured after a while, I have done this and yes it works got 5mil on my mule this way.

Gaia can look at every single thing you do, and track where every item you have goes.

14 Mar. 2010 07:59pm

It takes work I am not saying that it is a auto one gift thing just wait and leave the gifts wrapped up on one account for a few weeks then do the same thing over again.

**Eli** · 14 Mar. 2010 08:55pm

Secret Santa's etc....

However we use it for a different purpose that was listed above, letting it sit in an account for acouple months, then going back and selling it.

14 Mar. 2010 11:26pm

Yes, Gaia can chain ban accounts, at the same time, it's happened to me 4 times at least.

16 Mar. 2010 04:43am

Originally Posted by Mr Blue

Yes, Gaia can chain ban accounts, at the same time, it's happened to me 4 times at least.

And it happen to me 2 time. ;]
how they can track?

16 Mar. 2010 06:18am

Originally Posted by FrozenThrone

And it happen to me 2 time. ;]
how they can track?

Because it's gaia?? they can track anyone at anytime and ban without reason nor evidence.

16 Mar. 2010 06:23am

Originally Posted by Mr Blue

Because it's gaia?? they can track anyone at anytime and ban without reason nor evidence.

Ow,
we should kick GAIA admin.
n put LG admin there

because LG admin only ban with reason.

**iAKA** · 16 Mar. 2010 07:42am

Well, people won't believe me but still i hav to say . . .

Once I got into a Developer Account (2yrs back) and on going through the account, I saw that these guys have two passwords. One is their account password and the other is the Gaia Mod Dog (The database where u do editing stuff) password. Luckily this guy was a new Developer so he did not have a secondary password. So I made a new one, and got into mod dog and viewed some random profiles . . . .

Now getting on topic, There is a list on every ones profile (in ModDog) which shows all gifts, trades and games played. And even IP's associated with the account (evn tho those IP's have just 1 log in) So in a sense, all that is "So called unknown" is easily known by the Mods in just a click.

So as for my comment, I would just say it's very much idiotic to do anonymus gifts and say "Hey dude I am safe" xD

16 Mar. 2010 03:52pm

Originally Posted by FrozenThrone

And it happen to me 2 time. ;]
how they can track?

Are you serious? Somehow I think you don't know anything about how the Internet works.
If you have to ask that question, you won't understand the answer. The answer for dummies: Gaia can track anything that happens on Gaia. All site owners can track anything that happens on their site.

**idevil** · 16 Mar. 2010 04:22pm

I used to do it alot before, but they can still track you down and ban all the accounts you've gifted even if it is annonymously.

**Souleater** · 16 Mar. 2010 07:06pm

The mods and devs on gaia arent retarded, that is why the whole gifting thing got patched. it never used to be, but since LG went down the last time they fixed it a little better.

They could see trades, and non-anonymous gifts, now they made it so they can see "secret admirer" gifts. nothing is sacred any more, so any "secured" item or "LEGIT" item that was in another account's inventory, even if it was a mule, can trace the gifts so chain-bans and stuff is easier for the mods to do.

multiple gifts doesn't circumvent this either.

They got smarter, now its our turn to keep them guessing and on the losing side.

**Rundeer** · 16 Mar. 2010 08:35pm

Originally Posted by ~Souleater~

The mods and devs on gaia arent retarded, that is why the whole gifting thing got patched. it never used to be, but since LG went down the last time they fixed it a little better.

They could see trades, and non-anonymous gifts, now they made it so they can see "secret admirer" gifts. nothing is sacred any more, so any "secured" item or "LEGIT" item that was in another account's inventory, even if it was a mule, can trace the gifts so chain-bans and stuff is easier for the mods to do.

multiple gifts doesn't circumvent this either.

They got smarter, now its our turn to keep them guessing and on the losing side.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gaia has ALWAYS been able to see every single thing that happens on their site. This is a website hosted one their servers, and they can look at every bit of activity that happens.

Originally Posted by iAKA

Well, people won't believe me but still i hav to say . . .

Once I got into a Developer Account (2yrs back) and on going through the account, I saw that these guys have two passwords. One is their account password and the other is the Gaia Mod Dog (The database where u do editing stuff) password. Luckily this guy was a new Developer so he did not have a secondary password. So I made a new one, and got into mod dog and viewed some random profiles . . . .

Now getting on topic, There is a list on every ones profile (in ModDog) which shows all gifts, trades and games played. And even IP's associated with the account (evn tho those IP's have just 1 log in) So in a sense, all that is "So called unknown" is easily known by the Mods in just a click.

So as for my comment, I would just say it's very much idiotic to do anonymus gifts and say "Hey dude I am safe" xD

Did you ever do anything? That sounds awesome. :p

**alucart13** · 16 Mar. 2010 09:15pm

@Rundeer - Yes gaia has always been able to see, at least the vast majority of whats been going on. PHPBB2 and PHPBB3 keeps a pretty intuitive log of all activities on the site.

Regards,
Alucart13

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