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21 Dec. 2009 03:31pm

I've noticed a few people who have had reached UG (any of them) and then at some point in time have had their post count lowered for they cannot be in UG anymore. But they continue to have the rank, what I'm suggesting is for you to fix the post count req.

Example if you didn't get it.

John has 1000 post.
Torian lowers Johns post to 2.
John loses his x3 UG.

Torian laughs.

21 Dec. 2009 04:07pm

I don't like this idea at all, because that's just wasting time posting more on LG.

21 Dec. 2009 04:29pm

Originally Posted by Domo™

I don't like this idea at all, because that's just wasting time posting more on LG.

No ones forcing you to post at all. If you don't deserve Ug you don't deserve it.

21 Dec. 2009 04:35pm

Ok so if they dont diserve then they get banned.. Thats there way of giving them a second chance but still punishing them for what ever they did

21 Dec. 2009 04:36pm

Originally Posted by tiffanymykah

Ok so if they dont diserve then they get banned.. Thats there way of giving them a second chance but still punishing them for what ever they did

And when they come back they still have UG?
Doesn't make much sense does it.

21 Dec. 2009 04:37pm

I was referring to perm banned

21 Dec. 2009 04:40pm

Originally Posted by tiffanymykah

I was referring to perm banned

You can't decide if they are perm banned or not. Its based of what they did.
Basically what Im saying is if your post count is deducted and you have less of a post count then you should to be in that ug you should be kicked out.

21 Dec. 2009 04:53pm

Well its at the Mods gretion (however you spell it) they decide i just think we havnt had a incident like that yet

21 Dec. 2009 04:55pm

Originally Posted by tiffanymykah

Well its at the Mods gretion (however you spell it) they decide i just think we havnt had a incident like that yet

Logicalgamers - View Profile: GAMEchief <--- using as proof, and there was another.

21 Dec. 2009 05:02pm

Ok but the question is why did he get his post lowered what did he do?? Exactly no matter what he did its still up to the Mods to decide not us... Another example "Rape" He was temp banned for spamming.... he could get perm baned next time you never know and zxeenon too....they just decided to ban him why i dont know but the mods did it....
all im saying is leave it up to the mods basicly we have no say about banning and posts and gold they do not us...

21 Dec. 2009 05:05pm

Originally Posted by tiffanymykah

Ok but the question is why did he get his post lowered what did he do?? Exactly no matter what he did its still up to the Mods to decide not us... Another example "Rape" He was temp banned for spamming.... he could get perm baned next time you never know and zxeenon too....they just decided to ban him why i dont know but the mods did it....
all im saying is leave it up to the mods basicly we have no say about banning and posts and gold they do not us...

You have no idea what your talking about do you?
We are not talking about banning.
Nor do we care why his post were lowered.
We are talking about the requirement for UG.

Another example.

John has 501 post
John is in Silver UG
Torian removes 4 post
John now has 497 post and is removed from SILVER UG FOR NOT HAVING 500 POST.

**TEMPTii** · 21 Dec. 2009 05:12pm

Originally Posted by Defy

You have no idea what your talking about do you?
We are not talking about banning.
Nor do we care why his post were lowered.
We are talking about the requirement for UG.

Another example.

John has 501 post
John is in Silver UG
Torian removes 4 post
John now has 497 post and is removed from SILVER UG FOR NOT HAVING 500 POST.

Why would someone remove the posts?

21 Dec. 2009 05:14pm

Originally Posted by TEMPTii

Why would someone remove the posts?

Spam post probably?

**Oharo - kun** · 21 Dec. 2009 05:22pm

All I can say is..

The users whose post was lowered because of spamming, they should be kicked out of UG.

To Gamechief's case.
Dunno what real

Edit: My computer lag earlier so I didn't know that I already posted.
So i have another post after Boo's post.
Sorry, please delete post if you want to

**BooBearSH** · 21 Dec. 2009 05:25pm

Defy, we just need someone active who is constantly disciplining with temp bans or some shit. No one gives a shit when a mod gets on once a day and tells everyone stop that shit or else.

**Oharo - kun** · 21 Dec. 2009 05:27pm

Here's my opinion, just an opinion..

To those whose post count was lowered because an admin/staff removed his/her SPAM post should get kicked out of UG or any other group which requires the said post count.

But in Gamechief's case, It really depends to the admin/staff.
If what he said in his profile was true. Then here's my opinion.
Arti lowered his post count because he fixed something in the site.
Helpful it is, but he doesn't have the rights to do it.
So Arti made a decision, which was to lower his post count.
Well, that sucks.
But it's better than getting banned. That's probably the case if Gamechief did this in another site.
So yeah, Admin's decision

**Chris** · 21 Dec. 2009 07:17pm

I don't think any of you are understanding what she is saying.

She is saying if you automatically get the rank when you reach XXX amount of posts, if the post's drop under that requirement you should automatically lose the rank until you get back up over the amount needed.

For example;

Say for "Rank 1" you need 200 posts.

Mr. Alex get's 200 posts and obtains "Rank 1"
Mr. Alex loses 4 posts for spamming post count is 196 and he is no longer "Rank 1"
4 Days later Mr. Alex makes 200 posts again and becomes "Rank 1"

She isn't saying they need to be banned this should be an automatic thing.

Concept is is you hit XXX posts and get a prize if you go under XXX posts you lose the prize (Until you reach it again.)

21 Dec. 2009 07:19pm

OOOOOO but i still say its up to the mods

**Chris** · 21 Dec. 2009 07:20pm

Originally Posted by tiffanymykah

OOOOOO but i still say its up to the mods

Why?

It should be automated, the same as it is automated to gain the rank...

21 Dec. 2009 07:23pm

well i like your idea defy i agree for once.

**Oharo - kun** · 21 Dec. 2009 07:40pm

Originally Posted by Chris

I don't think any of you are understanding what she is saying.

She is saying if you automatically get the rank when you reach XXX amount of posts, if the post's drop under that requirement you should automatically lose the rank until you get back up over the amount needed.

For example;

Say for "Rank 1" you need 200 posts.

Mr. Alex get's 200 posts and obtains "Rank 1"
Mr. Alex loses 4 posts for spamming post count is 196 and he is no longer "Rank 1"
4 Days later Mr. Alex makes 200 posts again and becomes "Rank 1"

She isn't saying they need to be banned this should be an automatic thing.

Concept is is you hit XXX posts and get a prize if you go under XXX posts you lose the prize (Until you reach it again.)

Haven't you saw my post.? o.0
I think it clearly said what you have explained. -.-

@Tiffany. - That is why Defy made a suggestion thread.

@Rape. - Nice job spamming

**Chris** · 21 Dec. 2009 07:56pm

Originally Posted by Oharo - kun

Haven't you saw my post.? o.0
I think it clearly said what you have explained. -.-

@Tiffany. - That is why Defy made a suggestion thread.

@Rape. - Nice job spamming

May have been clear to you, but most of the people where going off about how GAMEcheif should be banned...wasn't even on topic.

21 Dec. 2009 10:13pm

Tiffany; you don't have much of an argument.
If people have 500 posts, and they Get UG silver, and some Mod deletes a thread that they posted in, and they now have 499 posts, they shouldn't have silver anymore. It's only right.
But I don't see why this is such a big deal.

**Chris** · 21 Dec. 2009 11:32pm

Originally Posted by Shojo

Tiffany; you don't have much of an argument.
If people have 500 posts, and they Get UG silver, and some Mod deletes a thread that they posted in, and they now have 499 posts, they shouldn't have silver anymore. It's only right.
But I don't see why this is such a big deal.

People are idiotic, that is why.

22 Dec. 2009 12:29am

Originally Posted by Shojo

Tiffany; you don't have much of an argument.
If people have 500 posts, and they Get UG silver, and some Mod deletes a thread that they posted in, and they now have 499 posts, they shouldn't have silver anymore. It's only right.
But I don't see why this is such a big deal.

Because if they are not deserving of the rank they should not still have it.

**Eli** · 22 Dec. 2009 01:12am

So you're telling me Gamechief shouldn't be Silver UG.
Now I get to lol.... hard XD.

03 Jan. 2010 05:45pm

Wanted to bring this back up for consideration/discussion.
Also seeing how Rape came back with 3xx post and has Silver Underground.

03 Jan. 2010 06:14pm

Its a great idea but cant they just ban the title Underground for x amount of days or months?

04 Jan. 2010 06:54pm

Pretty much...

Post to 50, your user group is automatically changed to UG Bronze.
Post to 500, your user group is automatically changed to UG Silver.
You get 250 posts deducted, but you're still in UG Silver...
The group only goes up, it has to manually be set to go back down.

**Souleater** · 05 Jan. 2010 01:41am

or how about this shit, purge the underground, all of it, and force everyone to APPLY for it. if you feel that you have earned it your posts should be reviewed, like it used to be done, so if you havent earned the title, you dont get it.

my suggestion to counter this one, PUT BACK UP APPS.

08 Jan. 2010 01:54am

Originally Posted by ~Souleater~

or how about this shit, purge the underground, all of it, and force everyone to APPLY for it. if you feel that you have earned it your posts should be reviewed, like it used to be done, so if you havent earned the title, you dont get it.

my suggestion to counter this one, PUT BACK UP APPS.

They took that out because it's time consuming and Alex and Eric already said bronze UG is just a place holder pretty much. It's all about Gold, that you need to get accepted in.

11 Jan. 2010 04:12am

Here's the problem with this:

I lost my posts as a 'punishment,' not for spam. Spamming your way into UG should result in loss of UG status. Automatically losing UG on a post count deduction eliminates post count deductions as a valid general punishment for any reason.

Also, that's not mentioning the way vBulletin is set up, it may very well not be possible (I mean, everything is possible, but it would be a pain in the ass with no modification already made for it).

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