Dragon Ball Debate Section

ok i wanna debate something about the people on the dbz show

example

sayians

they all get more powerful by out training themselves or train on other planets

goku vs vegeta

they are both sayians and yet the only difference between the two is that goku has had training on other planets and even death training(training when he was dead) and thats how he wins Vegeta is a prince of sayians he should be all powerful and beat goku or have a fair fight then slightly win at the end but what do you guys think?

if all sayians get more powerful by training

why are the sayian troops so weak against freeza when freeza killed them all in one shot -_-

like come on ONE GUY goku trained his ass off HIS ASS OFF came close to beating freeza at 100% then all it took was to go super sayian which the legend did say was possible and can be reached by any sayian like fucking their kids can go super sayian or super sayian two like KIDS MAN KIDS

why are they so god damn week when they fight freeza

seriously isn't it bullshit when you think about it logically

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yeah it is kinda confusing
but dbz is still awesome

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Originally Posted by iamwilliam

yeah it is kinda confusing
but dbz is still awesome

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it is awesome but its so fucked up half the time tho when you watch more episodes

Well I think the reason why freeza was so hard to beat, is because Guko was not used to his new powers from training and he still had alot to learn. And once he turn into a super sayian he understood some of the ability he could use.

I think that all the training/work/near death experiences that goku had as a kid should have made him WAY stronger because of all the stuff he went through, he took down an army for god sakes, and yet in the first episodes of DBZ he struggled against his brother.

Another good question would be: What would Nappa look like if he went super sayain(even though he died before he was able to obtain this ability its a good question to think about)

me and a few friends came to the conclusion that the sayain aura would be on top of his head(because hes bald)

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Originally Posted by Halogod

Well I think the reason why freeza was so hard to beat, is because Guko was not used to his new powers from training and he still had alot to learn. And once he turn into a super sayian he understood some of the ability he could use.

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yeah but there were Billions of sayians against freeza and he killed them in one shot and yet sayians only thing in mind is power and being stronger then one another they are power hungry

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Originally Posted by Lostintehdark

I think that all the training/work/near death experiences that goku had as a kid should have made him WAY stronger because of all the stuff he went through, he took down an army for god sakes, and yet in the first episodes of DBZ he struggled against his brother.

Another good question would be: What would Nappa look like if he went super sayain(even though he died before he was able to obtain this ability its a good question to think about)

me and a few friends came to the conclusion that the sayain aura would be on top of his head(because hes bald)

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i agree and nappa super sayian that would be sweet tho he has no hair XD

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Originally Posted by RobbyTheReaper

yeah but there were Billions of sayians against freeza and he killed them in one shot and yet sayians only thing in mind is power and being stronger then one another they are power hungry



i agree and nappa super sayian that would be sweet tho he has no hair XD

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wrong , 1 saiyan vs a giant :cool: what interesting they recently release a game which include vegeta ssj3 and broly ssj3 , how awesome is that ?
I might make a fan made manga about how broly become ssj3 :p

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Originally Posted by Sinister Faith

wrong , 1 saiyan vs a giant :cool: what interesting they recently release a game which include vegeta ssj3 and broly ssj3 , how awesome is that ?
I might make a fan made manga about how broly become ssj3 :p

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how am i wrong? if you watch the show all they want to do is control everything and be all powerful and now that there is only 2 real sayian only 3 if you count broly and vegeta and goku always wanna get stronger

really? what game was it? that would be sick to see :P

if you notice , no one care about bardock , so they wasn't prepared. but bardock stood up to frieeza , if it was all of saiyain they would be oozaru every where. but you only see bardock :D. I think you are talking about frieeza minion , which has nothing to do with the saiyan but still die... how sad

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Originally Posted by Sinister Faith

if you notice , no one care about bardock , so they wasn't prepared. but bardock stood up to frieeza , if it was all of saiyain they would be oozaru every where. but you only see bardock :D. I think you are talking about frieeza minion , which has nothing to do with the saiyan but still die... how sad

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point is billions of sayians that train their ass of and battle everyday and take over other alien races they should be more powerful then what they make them at in the timeline

like one shot from freeza come on -_- seriously they couldn't be that easy to defeat like come on think logically for a min goku and vegeta train everyday and get stronger from it and battle to and yet a whole race did the same shit then get killed by one shot -_- hard to believe

Think of it this way. The race thought two things 1. that it was a legend 2. that freiza was all powerful like some god. Goku knew freiza could be beaten and tried his hardest so that he could defeat him. He turned super sayain and vegeta realized it wasn't just a legend and could be obtained by training . There fore he trained until he got to that point. Also with the near death expeiriences. Vegeta knew all sayains gets stronger with the injuries they sustain. Which is why on namek he left his self get hurt to that point.
Then was healed by dende. In conclusion do you really think the sayain race think could beat some one that ensalved the king of sayains. They basically gave up on notion. Except bardock, he was like hells nah I'm fighting back.

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Originally Posted by sin of the wicked

Think of it this way. The race thought two things 1. that it was a legend 2. that freiza was all powerful like some god. Goku knew freiza could be beaten and tried his hardest so that he could defeat him. He turned super sayain and vegeta realized it wasn't just a legend and could be obtained by training . There fore he trained until he got to that point. Also with the near death expeiriences. Vegeta knew all sayains gets stronger with the injuries they sustain. Which is why on namek he left his self get hurt to that point.
Then was healed by dende. In conclusion do you really think the sayain race think could beat some one that ensalved the king of sayains. They basically gave up on notion. Except bardock, he was like hells nah I'm fighting back.

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the legend super sayian was broly they mentioned and still they could have had stronger people that did fight close to the death everyday there could have also been another super sayian during that point but they don't show it

DBZ has a fucked up story
But...
I think vegeta is better than goku because goku is boring...

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Originally Posted by Gina

DBZ has a fucked up story
But...
I think vegeta is better than goku because goku is boring...

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i think he is to XD hes my fav and broly :P

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Originally Posted by RobbyTheReaper

the legend super sayian was broly they mentioned and still they could have had stronger people that did fight close to the death everyday there could have also been another super sayian during that point but they don't show it

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Sorry, but the probably of that happen is like zip. There was no near death for sayains. Look at how they where treated either they picked on weak people or where cannon fodder for frieza. There was no "near death" also don't the comment the wrong way. I know broly was the first super sayain the legendary one. but then again broly is goku's age ain't no baby going up against frieza. And for the most part broly is peace ful. He just hates goku lol.

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Originally Posted by sin of the wicked

Sorry, but the probably of that happen is like zip. There was no near death for sayains. Look at how they where treated either they picked on weak people or where cannon fodder for frieza. There was no "near death" also don't the comment the wrong way. I know broly was the first super sayain the legendary one. but then again broly is goku's age ain't no baby going up against frieza. And for the most part broly is peace ful. He just hates goku lol.

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oh yeah now i remember nevermind that comment i was thinking of the movie where they introduce broly yeah i remember now

still since they picked on the weak there had to have been someone strong as a super sayian atleast on that planet hiding out

I'm sorry but I'm just doubting it. Why? because they would have to be facing people as strong as frieza. I think if there was somebody with that power they would have either ambushed him or he would have revolted. Anyway if he had that power would he really die from some puny death ball. Hells no.

I was a bit confused. You were refering to the earlier episodes before any Super Sayians I believe. The reason they couldn't kill Frieza so easily is because that would make for a horrible story. What good would it be if Goku just came in and tapped him on the head with his finger and killed him? They slowly progressed for more power to keep you addicted.

lol okay she got it.

the legend was , the first super saiyan died from overload of power , he can only become a ssj when he is in his oozaruu form. Broly was the rebirth of the legendary ssj ... so they think.
:D all saiyan was an a noob , they were too comfortable with there life style , so they stop training, they believe frieeza was gonna protect them , but in the end boom they died.

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Originally Posted by Defy

I was a bit confused. You were refering to the earlier episodes before any Super Sayians I believe. The reason they couldn't kill Frieza so easily is because that would make for a horrible story. What good would it be if Goku just came in and tapped him on the head with his finger and killed him? They slowly progressed for more power to keep you addicted.

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but if they didnt slow it down their might have shown that the sayians weren't that easy to kill like freeza did :P

I guess your right about that one robby. but the sayains could have tried harder.

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Originally Posted by RobbyTheReaper

but if they didnt slow it down their might have shown that the sayians weren't that easy to kill like freeza did :P

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This made almost no sense. I'm taking it that you wanted the Saiyans to start off in their strongest form which is just stupid, especially since each stage has its own story.

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Originally Posted by Defy

This made almost no sense. I'm taking it that you wanted the Saiyans to start off in their strongest form which is just stupid, especially since each stage has its own story.

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what my point is that the sayian race shouldnt have been that easily defeated since their power hungry and wanna be the best out there and train to get stronger and take over planets

if it wasn't for the storyline that they made for it i could see that the race wasn't that easy to destroy in one shot like freeza did

When gokus on the verge of death he yells, throws punches, wins. Just like any other anime ):

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Originally Posted by Slowpoke

When gokus on the verge of death he yells, throws punches, wins. Just like any other anime ):

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or finish off with a blast :P Spirit Bomb bitches :P

Another stuff that actually is quite confusing are the power levels. I nthe beginning they start with a few thousands and the highest achievable is around a million or so.

By the end the most common power level ranges from a million to a billion! lol

But still Im a big fan of DBZ.

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Originally Posted by iAKA

Another stuff that actually is quite confusing are the power levels. I nthe beginning they start with a few thousands and the highest achievable is around a million or so.

By the end the most common power level ranges from a million to a billion! lol

But still Im a big fan of DBZ.

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i think thats cause the technology on the scouter's could only handle a certain power level radiation or something