Eating after witnessing.

Today for the first time I went to a farm and witness a few pigs being kicked, dragged, and killed. It was depressing to watch but I had to. An hour ago, it was alive. Now, it's dead and being hung in the air from the rear of it's legs. It went through a series of process before it was hung.
First, it's the killing process. I believed they stab it's neck multiple of times - letting it bleed. If it survive the first attack they would either cut it again or use a chainsaw thing.
Second, they threw the pig into some hot water spinning machine that spun the pig around to remove the fur. Any left over would be removed by hand.
Third, they had this flame thrower type of tool that was used. I think its for removing all of the left over fur or bacteria.
Fourth, the insides were removed the guts, heart, blood, and etc.
Fifth, the buyer got a choice of either keeping the head on or have them remove it. They spray water and clean it.

That's all I can remember.
I saw three pigs and two goats died today. When the Mexican guy was kicking the pigs, I swear I just wanted to kick his ass. I just think it wouldn't be as wrong if they were treated the right way without any abuse before the meat or pork is being sold. For the first time, I thought about not eating meat because of what happened. But I know it's nature. It's the "circle of life".

Do you think this is wrong? What would you change? How? If you saw what happened, would you still eat it?

PS: I was not the one purchasing the pig. I tagged along with someone who was.

Just to be clear: I love eating meat. It's just witnessing the killing that makes me not want to eat it. Yes I know that every meat were alive at one time but yeah. Now I guess I can say I know where my foods came from. Forgot what else I as going to add.

Well as long as they don't torture the animal i think its ok.
If they don't hurt the animal before killing it its cool with me.

It was depressing when the dude was kicking the pig.
He did it multiples of time. A couple of kicks in the head/face. The cried of the pig made it worst.
Btw I rather not witness.

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Originally Posted by Google

It was depressing when the dude was kicking the pig.
He did it multiples of time. A couple of kicks in the head/face. The cried of the pig made it worst.
Btw I rather not witness.

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Yeah that is bad but the things that you see on the peta videos are worse and thats why i never watch those kind of videos.

God, I can not stand any of those videos either.
It brings me sadness and rage if I watch them.

It's heartless and depressing but you have to realize these people kill pigs everyday. After a while, it's not a life anymore it's a product. Yes it's sad, fucked up, and disturbing to a point but that's life. People desensitize themselves to the point of not feeling any sort of mercy towards these animals. They're something weaker to take out their anger on. So when the product isn't doing what you want it to do, you get upset, and do something to that product. I mean think of what you're working with, they have to be mildly cracked to be working on a slaughter farm.

Edit: Not saying it's right at all mind you, just saying why it happens.

I've seen various animals been killed, then cooked and finally to my plate. To be honest, I don't mind how it was killed, after all, being eaten by a pack of wolves doesn't sound any better, does it?

To be honest, That doesn't bother me.

I've seen things die infront of my own eyes and it hasn't bothered me. Okay sure, a pig died and cried a little bit before it died, they don't just die of old age, they usually get shot, beheaded or some other form of quick death.

Sure what the mexican guy done is not right, but it's life. He's trying to make a living , and the buyer wants some bacon.

You guys are all saying its life but its not him hitting the pig and torturing it isn't life. If they would just kill the pig like they were supposed to then its normal.

I've seen a cow get killed and it wasn't done by a professional.

yeah it just gets kind of annoying, because, whats the point, you can just kind of push it along and stuff to where your bringing it to kill it, really no need to just start kicking it around
before you kill it. i really dont like meat or chicken or anything like that and im basically a vegetarian, but i hate vegetables xD and i cant stand not eating tacos so im like screwed,
but i at least have my italian side for pastatarianism :b

For some reason this just reminds me of watching "Food, Inc." in environmental science. People do some pretty fucked up things to our food a lot and you wouldn't even expect it. It's terrible.

It is just a product. They feed it and took care of it, now they've killed it and sold it in the most effective way they knew how.
Animals don't operate on the same mental level as humans. The pig knew pain but it doesn't much matter. Ultimately it had an awesome life because its simplistic mind only knew that most of the time it was happily being feed and allowed to breed. Death and killing is brutal, but no one is going to waste the time or money in a capitalist world to make it human, for something that isn't human. Half the time we don't give human circumstance to humans.

Despite what I just said, I do agree with you. There's no point in changing the current system, as people are going to eat the food no matter what. If you're hungry, you're gonna eat. I'll take the pigs pain over starvation.

I've also seen a pig killed, shaved, and made into food. I personally don't care of how it died, all I know is that I'm eating it, and that's all that matters.

For some of you who feel bad about it, think how much more painful it would've been to die from numerous wolf bites. Heck, it would've probably been alive while the wolves were taking a chunk out of its thigh.

DO realize its not all places that kill animals like this. That was just a mexican guy. A lot of places kill them through injecting air into their veins to cause a heart-attack, or by instantly killing the pig with a round to the dome. Not all places kick and do those things to animals.

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Originally Posted by Souleater

DO realize its not all places that kill animals like this. That was just a mexican guy. A lot of places kill them through injecting air into their veins to cause a heart-attack, or by instantly killing the pig with a round to the dome. Not all places kick and do those things to animals.

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I've seen the air into their veins many times. It seems to be quite painless. The same as a bullet to the dome, it's quick, and then I get to eat bacon for supper.

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Originally Posted by Google

Do you think this is wrong? What would you change? How? If you saw what happened, would you still eat it?

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No, I personally don't. I generally don't like other species besides my own, although I have a soft spot for birds. I'm not a cannibal either. I wouldn't change it, the more effective the better. These cruel techniques help us profit. Even if we were to spend more money to "humanely" kill these animals...we've still exploited their life. Is sparing a few million on being more "humane" some kind of "apology" to cover up our greed? If a pig can offer crude entertainment to some mexicans before its death they'll take take advantage of it. Don't discriminate against animals, they're all the same. Its like that dog eating debate. There's an interesting book called, "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat," its a good read if you have spare time. And honestly, if you saw what happened in war, would you cheer on your own country?

When we went to the slaughterhouse for our school field trip it was slightly depressing. We were informed not to point, laugh, or smile. These guys that have to kill these animals have a high suicide/homicide rate. Stone-face, and silent the whole time. They slit about 40 goats throats, did a cow, and some pigs.

Not all places are cruel to animals. As a culinary student, I understand why some of the methods are used to take care of these animals. For instance, if they were packed close and tight in a small pin to where they can't move and fed constantly you would get a nice, extremely tender, very well-marbled high quality piece of meat. But, humane and animal cults have said the baby cows should live and frolic out in the pasture let their tender, delicate muscles become firm and learn why they should fear a bullet to the head. Either way you look at it, it has wrong points. Circle of life.

Oh, and after seeing that bloodbath I had a nice 8 oz sirloin from Ruth Chris's Steakhouse. It was the best steak I've ever had. Most appreciated too.

No, that's not "just the circle of life". It is aboslute torture and is evil.

I've stopped eating meat completely (except for fish...i dont have much sympathy for them for some reason xD). If you're going to eat meat OP, buy it from your local farms. By farms, I don't mean factories. I mean from places where the animals actually live outside, and are able to see the light of day, and aren't forced to live in their own feces and urine and stuffed into small cages just to be tortured and killed later on. If you can't go to any local farms (the ones around here are over an hour away from my house), then at least buy meat from the organic section in your local grocery store. Its best to buy meat and eggs that are cage-free, free-range, and organic. This means that they most likely had a good home, and were not raised in factories.

Nowadays- it is an evil we have grown to love- Mcdonalds, Burger King, ect. Taking into this was one of the larger mass producing farms.
Before the pigs death it was stuffed into a small pin with no room, to even walk- with some odd 400 other diseased pigs. It was then injected hormones for growth or fertility, some of which could kill a human. Then, when they are ready- the farmers take 50 of them, and ship them off to a plant where they mechanically separate meat.
(the pigs and chicken and such are killed, squished together- and such)

http://www.delish.com/cm/delish/imag...ken%20wiki.jpg

this is then formed into burgers which are coated with the fatty, meaty goodness we love :)

I wish there was a law, if you were torturing animals or humans for mere entertainment and were caught, you would be tortured the same exact way.

I wish people wouldn't kill animals as aggressively as they do. I wish they would just get it over with. Animals aren't a mere 'product' as some of you guys say it is. That's like saying some alien species farming humans saying we are a 'product' and torture, kill, eat, etc etc us.
This is one of mankind's many weaknesses.

I dont eat anything that comes from a pig. I just dont like the taste...bacon. ew. ham. ew. pork chops. ew. thats why I stick to frozen hamburger meat with no face at the grocery store. My sister is Vegan and tries to convert me all the time. But honestly I like being part of this society that looks the other way. We are the top of the food chain is it my fault other animals aren't created smarter to over take us? no. Do I think they should be killed and raised inhumainly? most definately not. But not all places treat their animals that way either. Just appreciate every piece of meat you do get because it was once a life. Oh and if it makes you feel any better my dads a conductor for the railroad and they hit cows on the tracks all the time because its impossible to stop and the cows fly by the windows STILL chewing grass after being HIT BY A TRAIN. I am sorry but thats pretty sad and explains why they are lower than us on the food chain...

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Originally Posted by missangelachristine

I dont eat anything that comes from a pig. I just dont like the taste...bacon. ew. ham. ew. pork chops. ew. thats why I stick to frozen hamburger meat with no face at the grocery store. My sister is Vegan and tries to convert me all the time. But honestly I like being part of this society that looks the other way. We are the top of the food chain is it my fault other animals aren't created smarter to over take us? no. Do I think they should be killed and raised inhumainly? most definately not. But not all places treat their animals that way either. Just appreciate every piece of meat you do get because it was once a life. Oh and if it makes you feel any better my dads a conductor for the railroad and they hit cows on the tracks all the time because its impossible to stop and the cows fly by the windows STILL chewing grass after being HIT BY A TRAIN. I am sorry but thats pretty sad and explains why they are lower than us on the food chain...

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500 pound cow vs ten ton train. Hmm. Cows are slow, hence why people go cow tipping.

Why would they bother to hurt the animals if they knew it would die soon? Can't they just euthanize them or something? Like, stunning it with a captive bolt pistol? God, humans nowadays are effing retarded.

Eh food is food. I don't think the emotional state of the animal affects the taste. : P but on the other hand, it is depressing for people to mistreat animals. BUT they're gonna die anyway so what's it matter? ~eats bacon~

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Originally Posted by erickrealz

Why would they bother to hurt the animals if they knew it would die soon? Can't they just euthanize them or something? Like, stunning it with a captive bolt pistol? God, humans nowadays are effing retarded.

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Organizations keeping the farms up aren't willing to pay for said stunning methods or anything else of that kind. Everything costs money, and if they don't keep the products as cheap as possible, the majority wouldn't buy.