William Shakespeare or Sir Isaac Newton?
Who has had the biggest impact which made our world today what it is?
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William Shakespeare or Sir Isaac Newton?
Who has had the biggest impact which made our world today what it is?
Sir Isaac.
It's because he found out about Gravity and how it works.
It would've impacted society by quite a bit more if Newton weren't born, then Shakespear.
yes i agree alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenGenesis
I'm sure if newton didn't discover gravity then someone else would have; its some pretty basic shit right there... Shakespear influenced the world far more.
They both changed the way we think in very different ways, so there is no real point in comparing them.
Sir Isacc Newton discovered forces not gravity. Newton is one of the founders of science as we know it. He is insanely important. His work in optics, physics, and astrology are invaluable and many of them would not have been discovered without him for many years. The man was sticking needles into his eyes and playing with his optic nerves, that's dedication. We'd be set back at least a 100 years without Newton.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGenesis
Sheakspear really isn't that important. Tons of his work has been proven not to really be his, just someone using his name. He's not that brilliant, he was just employed by the Queen because she like him and was doing him. If someone is the Queen's favorite "writer" he's the whole of England's favorite and thus popular.
Lol Newton did not discover gravity
He just named it
ANyways
William Shakespear
He was a cultural leader
Very important in those time
Made the city famous and wealthy because more people came to see his art
I agree, Someone else would eventually discover gravity (how it works) even if Isaac didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Shakespeare is one of a kind.
It's seems everyone skipped over this post, which may be the most well-informed post in the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by C0FFINCASE
I had no idea Isaac ever did anything in optics though.
Thank you Kain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain
Newton touched almost every branch of science. The man was a genius, one of the greatest human being to ever live. Newton and his famous peers are invaluable to humanity's current advancements. Shakespeare mean nothing, all his influences on culture have since past and the writing we have today of him are not even his really. On top of that he wasn't as famous as people are saying here. He lived in England and was popular in England, towards the end of his life. Because drama and playwrights were looked down upon and only a novelty for the wealthy. His theater was founded way late in his career and torn down then rebuilt. Again his fame stems from the fact he found favor with the queen. There is not really way to compare their value since Shakespeare means so little compared to Newton.
Shakespeare, he gave a spirit to culture, promoted literacy in a way.
So i hav to go with him.
Neither. Newton hasnt done anything to the world. He "discovered" gravity and wrote the theory of gravity, and yet its been more then 500 years and its still just a theory. its obvious its a law, but even the scientific community cant accept this. As for Shakespeare, most people in the literature community believe that he may have stolen most of his works from unnamed artists. Both of them, great thinkers in more than their own right. Brilliant, but since the only thing they impacted is skepticism and disbelief from those that they sought to teach, inform and entertain in some cases, they made no real humanity wide impact. individually, yes, but across the span of humanity, not even close.
Well I would say neither, but if you would really need to choose from those 2, i would go with Isaac Newton, because i don't like Shakespear and he doesn't enspire me at all.
I would say, Shakespeare since he helped out more and I would consider him as one of the fathers of science
William Shakespeare, I really like his quotes and Sonnets
Newton being the father of modern science and laying the foundation of several branches of science did nothing for us? Also "theory of gravity" I've only heard of the law, sir. You seem terribly misinformed on Newton and his works. He did much more that discover forces(not gravity).Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Souleater~
Shakespeare had nothing to do with science.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow-kun
How can you compare scientific breakthroughs to word arrangement? Newton wins by a landslide.
@C0FFINCASE,
It is actually called the theory of gravity. It's a scientific theory, just like evolution.
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Originally Posted by ~Souleater~
But Newton's "discoveries" laid the base for the study of physics, and have led to many more discoveries that would've been impossible without him. Do you think the LHC would exist without Newton's work?
Don't get me wrong, Shakespeare was just as important. Not many works of literature are read so many centuries after their creation.
Just because art is admired at a later time doesn't mean it was important for the advancement of mankind...
"Sir Isaac Newton: The Universal Law of Gravitation"Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEchief
Unless science has changed its views I'm fairly certain that things start as theory then become law, which is a theory but its a theory we know to be true or at least functional in all case in our experience so we call it fact.
A law is a statement of observation. A theory is an explanation.
"A law differs from a scientific theory in that it does not posit a mechanism or explanation of phenomena: it is merely a distillation of the results of repeated observation."
All scientific explanations are called "scientific theory," even those believed to be fact (including, but not limited to, both gravity and evolution).
William Shaky Spear...B/C Julius Caesar was one of the best tales of love and betrayal in the world...
i think Newton because of his "contributions" to science
Personally I hate Shakespeare, I honestly don't find him that talented of a writer. Sir Issac Newton hands down.
Why in the world would you compare people on two opposite sides of a spectrum. Scine versus writing....? Obviously, Newton. Scientific advancement is always more important than just an author.
Isaac Newton, the father of modern physics? really? becuase half of his theories, which is all they are, and no there is NO LAW OF GRAVITY, it is still considered the theory of gravity although it is widely accepted as a law. Dont test me on that, i know my physics. Newtons theories are only that, theories since there will never be enough evidence to prove his theories as laws, he put something down on paper that for all the detail there was was just vague enough to seem possible. Just like John the Batist and the Book of Revelations. Are you fucking serious? I can make a theory on time travel and make it extremely vague and it could be considered with weight behind it. Its theories. And as far as I am concenrned Albert Einstein is the biggest influence on physics, not Newton.
As far as Shakespeare being the most important, there is no way that he is the most important. He has inspired millions of writers and poets, myself included, but lets face it, he is just a writer that possibly stole most of his works, albeit there is no copywrite laws back in his time, but the fact remains. And considering that most people have only heard of the main few plays, Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Caeser, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and maybe a few of his numbered sonnets, one can hardly say that he is the best or most important in anything.
Neither of these men has the most influence on anything. They were extremely influencial, this is true, but not for a massive measure. Both are great men in their respective fields and such, but neither are overly influencial as suggested.
Who'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Forever
Plays having an impact on our world, sure.
Science having an impact on our world, obviously.
So my choice is Sir Isaac Newton.
EDIT: Oh and Shakespeare didn't write any of his plays, it's been proven.
The man improves the telescope, so much so its the same model we use till this day in principle. He discovers the prism and the thus the spectrum and wavelengths and how colors work. He lays the foundation for our current understanding of light by commenting on the particle nature of what science at the time was certain was a wave. Heck the man built a functioning electrostatic generator years before Telsa was born. The man writes the universal law of gravitation and advances our understanding of the heavens and how orbit works by a few hundred years. In doing so he comes to describe forces and energy and how they work. The same theories you learn today in physics, almost word for word in all these accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Souleater~
Also unless you have some superior grasp of physics and calculus and can express the whole thing in logical and correct mathematics form your theories on any thing will not be reviewed at all.
This isn't a discussion of who is most influenced to physics or science over all, simple between Newton and Shakespeare. Regardless Newton and Einstein would be equally influenced to science in many physicist book. Einstein changed physics as we know it but Newton set them up to begin with.
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Newton remains influential to scientists, as demonstrated by a 2005 survey of members of Britain's Royal Society (formerly headed by Newton) asking who had the greater effect on the history of science, Newton or Albert Einstein. Royal Society scientists deemed Newton to have made the greater overall contribution.[61] In 1999, an opinion poll of 100 of today's leading physicists voted Einstein the "greatest physicist ever;" with Newton the runner-up, while a parallel survey of rank-and-file physicists by the site PhysicsWeb gave the top spot to Newton.
Heard of something called the 'Law of Universal Gravitation'?Quote:
and no there is NO LAW OF GRAVITY
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Guess who derived that? This law has been proved both empirically and mathematically thousands of times over. To claim there is no solid scientific basis of his theory showcases your lack of understanding. If you went up to any renowned physicist or mathematician and claimed Newton wasn't a huge influence in his respective fields, you would be laughed at. Just look at some of his major accomplishments.
- Newton's laws of motion. These laws are still used today to explain phenomena that fits in to classical physics.
- Newton's work on gravitational force. If you're unfamiliar with exactly what he did, look it up.
- His work in mathematics. Predominately, binomial theorem (+ polynomials = Newton's Law of Cooling) and calculus.
- His work in optics and the visible light spectrum. He invented the reflecting telescope.
A lot of respected physicists put Newton as the most influential individual in his respective fields. It's easy to sit there and say, 'oh but someone else would have invented it. His theory wasn't that important'. You have to understand, at his time it was revolutionary. Just like Einstein's theories of relativity and his work with quantum physics and the photoelectric effect (for which he won a Nobel prize) were also revolutionary.
of course, we wouldn't live life like it is right now if it wasn't for Isaac. Shakespeare's just a side show.
Newton.
The world can survive without romeo and juliet