Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Rebirth

[To Give You This Gun]

I really loved the story and it has alot of similarities to the game from the PS1 days and , FF7 Rebirth the Golden Saucer was amazing too i loved how they did the games in it . it was like how i remembered playing the game as a teenager it was all like BAM ps1 graphics where all amazing back then and tbh they really outdid them selves on the game again , we been waiting for remakes and stuff since the ps2 days and it only took 3 consoles later .. i mean the Dirge of Cerberus idk i never got into it , i even bought it and the PSP games those where all side stories , But to actually had the game so relatable and just amazing was awesome ....even the

Spoiler:

volt code in the HOJO scene was the same as the ps1

[Cyanoxide]

I really liked Remake, I went in with low expectations because I was expecting to be disappointed, considering Squenix's track record, but I was pleasently surprised with it. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Rebirth. Honestly, I can't stand it. It's just so full on bloat, unecessasary plotholes and oversights. It's literally the only FF game I've given up on half way through.

[Souleater]

I really loved the story and it has alot of similarities to the game from the PS1 days and , FF7 Rebirth the Golden Saucer was amazing too i loved how they did the games in it . it was like how i remembered playing the game as a teenager it was all like BAM ps1 graphics where all amazing back then and tbh they really outdid them selves on the game again , we been waiting for remakes and stuff since the ps2 days and it only took 3 consoles later .. i mean the Dirge of Cerberus idk i never got into it , i even bought it and the PSP games those where all side stories , But to actually had the game so relatable and just amazing was awesome ....even the

Spoiler:

volt code in the HOJO scene was the same as the ps1

My biggest issue with Rebirth was the flashback scene to Nibelheim. In the original, Sephiroth felt like a monster, someone so wildly out of reach in terms of power that it really set the stage for him. While Cloud was doing less than 20 damage, Sephiroth was dropping 3000+, had no flinch animation, took no damage and was just the baddest fucker alive. And then they ruined it in Rebirth.

[Cyanoxide]

My biggest issue with Rebirth was the flashback scene to Nibelheim. In the original, Sephiroth felt like a monster, someone so wildly out of reach in terms of power that it really set the stage for him. While Cloud was doing less than 20 damage, Sephiroth was dropping 3000+, had no flinch animation, took no damage and was just the baddest fucker alive. And then they ruined it in Rebirth.

This is going to make me look completely unhinged but this is one of many messages I sent to my friend back when I was playing it. It's about the Zolom/Midgardsomr fight:

So, like in the original game, you need to grab a Chocobo to pass the Zolom and reach the Mythril mines. The swamp impedes your movement and Chocobos are supposably unaffected by the water so you need one as before in the original game. This is important because the zolom, a literal giant building-sized snake, lives in the swamp and can move at rapid speed. If you were caught in the swamp without a Chocobo, you'd supposedly have no chance of escape even if you weren't encumbered by the water. So, your only hope at this stage is to outspeed the snake on a Chocobo.

You get your Chocobo through an unnecessarily tedious mini-game and make your way back to the swamp. You reach the water only to find out that despite what has been said, the Chocobos are in fact affected by the water and move much slower than your normal movement speed. Technically faster than you would be without one but not by much. If this is fast enough to outpace the Zolom, the snake must actually be really fucking slow, which is not the case.

Regardless, you make your way through the swamp, with multiple Chocobos and a literal talking dog with cannine senses who should be able to sense the snake from a distance. However, the party walks onto seemingly dry land only to find that they're standing on the back of the building-sized snake without noticing. The argument could be made that the snake couldn't be sensed because it's under the water but that's not really valid considering they mistook the snake for dry land so parts of it were definitely not underwater and again, it's the size of a building.

The snake moves underneath them and somehow, at the exact same moment, everyone in the party manages to fall off of their Chocobos and the Chocobos now run off at full speed, now completely unaffected by the water.

This leaves the party to fight the snake in waist-high water. They should be powerless and unable to move because of the water, however, when the fight starts, the water is no longer an issue. The party can now move around completely unimpeded, literally walking on top of the water.

The snake is made out to be really intimidating, however, the fight plays out just as trivially as any other boss fight the game has offered so far. However, when the party gets the snake's health down to 0 a cutscene plays out, portraying how much of a struggle the party was having fighting the snake which was not how it felt in battle. They could have definitely changed the fight to make it seem more like they were struggling (as they should have been) as they have in the past with other bosses, but they didn't so this was really jarring.

The cutscene then shows the snake grabbing Cloud with its tail and diving down into the water. The water, I remind you, that was ankle-high moments prior in the battle, and waist-high before the the fight started. Now, however, the water is so deep that the literal giant building-sized snake is able to effortlessly dive down there with Cloud completely out of the party's view. The ankle-high water is now more like an ocean at this point.

Spoiler:

Cloud goes unconscious in the water, turns into or summons Sephiroth somehow, and Sephiroth literally yeets the snake up out of the water and literally into the fucking sky impailing the snake on the top of a tree in the mountain. Something no human could possibly do.

Cloud wakes on the surface, the water changing again now to be ankle-high once more and the ocean he was previously in is now no longer to be seen. Cloud then claims that Sephiroth was here, and the party tells Cloud that he wasn't.

They then start worrying that something is wrong with Cloud's head, despite them witnessing the snake literally blast off into the sky, something Cloud couldn't possibly do.

The only person they know of who could possibly do something like that would be Sephiroth but rather than coming to the conclusion that he was there and they just didn't see him, they don't even bother questioning what happened to the snake and just think there's something wrong with Cloud's head which is really fucking dumb.

[Souleater]

This is going to make me look completely unhinged but this is one of many messages I sent to my friend back when I was playing it. It's about the Zolom/Midgardsomr fight:

There's loads of inconsistencies like that in the game. It feels like they rushed continuity from one scene to the next for the sake of adding in as much as possible with any real attention being paid to details like that

[Cyanoxide]

There's loads of inconsistencies like that in the game. It feels like they rushed continuity from one scene to the next for the sake of adding in as much as possible with any real attention being paid to details like that

Yeah, I noticed issues like that in practically every area I went to. The only place I can genuinely say I enjoyed what they did with was Upper Junon. I got as far as Cosmo and saw what they did to Red and Bugenhagen and I was out.

[Souleater]

Yeah, I noticed issues like that in practically every area I went to. The only place I can genuinely say I enjoyed what they did with was Upper Junon. I got as far as Cosmo and saw what they did to Red and Bugenhagen and I was out.

It's a real issue that is probably going to get worse with part 3, unfortunately.

[Cyanoxide]

It's a real issue that is probably going to get worse with part 3, unfortunately.

I don't want to be a downer, I know loads of people love it, but yeah, I expect the same for part 3. I will likely power through Rebirth eventually though as I'm a massive loser and I'm currently trying to Plat all the FF games on PSN. It does make me worried for the rumoured 9 remake that's in development though.