Finished the beta of my slots bot

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12 Feb. 2013, 03:52am
GAMEchief

Finished the beta of my slots bot

Tokens: 847
Tickets: 213
Tokens spent (by bot): 681
Tickets received (by bot): 384
Tickets won this spin: 3

Converting tokens and tickets to their Gaia gold value, it comes out to 26 gold/minute profit. Which I imagine is pretty shitty, but if you leave it running overnight (8 hours), it'd amount to 12,500. Leaving it to run all day amounts to 37,500. Is that anything worthwhile? Worth running?

Then of course run it on multiple accounts at the same time.

Just gotta add the part that will automatically buy more tokens whenever it runs out, and I think this will be a finished grinder, eh?

EDIT: 4 cents per day per mule that you run it on

So I guess it wouldn't be bad if you ran it on a bunch at once. I wonder what the risk of getting IP banned is, though.

EDIT2: Now it's at 60 gg/minute. I need to let this run a lot longer before analyzing statistics on it. I'll get back to you on exactly how profitable the slots machines are.
12 Feb. 2013, 03:58am
Stapled

Sometimes you win big, I had a 1:0.26 tokens to tickets ratio for a while that ended up being 1:4.2.
12 Feb. 2013, 04:02am
GAMEchief

Well I don't think the token to ticket ratio is supposed to be 1:1 anyway, given that a ticket is worth 5 times more than a token.

Is there a way to bet more than 3 tokens per spin? I imagine there would be some sort of "bet 3 to maybe win 30 or bet 9 to maybe win 90" kinda thing.
12 Feb. 2013, 04:58am
Stapled

I don't think it'll let you play if you bet any more then 3. I tried it but I didn't look at the response so I'm not too sure what happens.
12 Feb. 2013, 05:33am
-0- D i o r -0-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Stover

Tokens: 847
Tickets: 213
Tokens spent (by bot): 681
Tickets received (by bot): 384
Tickets won this spin: 3

Converting tokens and tickets to their Gaia gold value, it comes out to 26 gold/minute profit. Which I imagine is pretty shitty, but if you leave it running overnight (8 hours), it'd amount to 12,500. Leaving it to run all day amounts to 37,500. Is that anything worthwhile? Worth running?

Then of course run it on multiple accounts at the same time.

Just gotta add the part that will automatically buy more tokens whenever it runs out, and I think this will be a finished grinder, eh?

EDIT: 4 cents per day per mule that you run it on

So I guess it wouldn't be bad if you ran it on a bunch at once. I wonder what the risk of getting IP banned is, though.

EDIT2: Now it's at 60 gg/minute. I need to let this run a lot longer before analyzing statistics on it. I'll get back to you on exactly how profitable the slots machines are.

2 slots bots means more gold :D
12 Feb. 2013, 05:46am
mykillmygil

Very nice.

Only limited to 3 tokens a spin unfortunately.
Maybe you could add a proxy function to it?

What language/s do you code your programs in? I'm a CS major so I want to learn more about bot coding, but of course school only teaches me c++ and java and basic algorithms.
12 Feb. 2013, 06:50am
GAMEchief

I used JavaScript, so it will automatically use whatever proxy your browser is configured to use.

I wouldn't recommend JavaScript, though.

Current stats:
526.12% ROI (for every 1 gold in, 5.26 gold out)
153.07 gg/min

I am guessing somewhere in there that are random "+1000 tickets" or something. I've unfortunately not been monitoring the stats for which ticket reward numbers exist and how often you get them. I imagine that is on Google somewhere.
12 Feb. 2013, 07:04am
mykillmygil

Per Slot
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 5
Ghost - 1 : 7
Box - 1 : 11
Wing - 1 : 30
Halo - 1 : 136

Per Row
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 125
Ghost - 1 : 251
Box - 1 : 1,243
Wing - 1 : 25,026
Halo - 1 : 2,498,847

Statistics I found for landing on each of the items. :/

Guess its time for me to start looking into javascript.
12 Feb. 2013, 07:05am
-0- D i o r -0-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Stover

I used JavaScript, so it will automatically use whatever proxy your browser is configured to use.

I wouldn't recommend JavaScript, though.

Current stats:
526.12% ROI (for every 1 gold in, 5.26 gold out)
153.07 gg/min

I am guessing somewhere in there that are random "+1000 tickets" or something. I've unfortunately not been monitoring the stats for which ticket reward numbers exist and how often you get them. I imagine that is on Google somewhere.

I found this thread from 2005 that may or may not be accurate. But it spells out the mathematics behind the chances
-- Gaia slots: Estimated roll rates -- | First Page | Forum | Gaia Online
12 Feb. 2013, 07:11am
mykillmygil

Quote:

Originally Posted by -0- D i o r -0-

I found this thread from 2005 that may or may not be accurate. But it spells out the mathematics behind the chances
-- Gaia slots: Estimated roll rates -- | First Page | Forum | Gaia Online

Hahaha Beat you to it :p
12 Feb. 2013, 07:29am
-0- D i o r -0-

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykillmygil

Hahaha Beat you to it :p

:O I posted the whole thread though
12 Feb. 2013, 07:53am
mykillmygil

Quote:

Originally Posted by -0- D i o r -0-

:O I posted the whole thread though

Touche. :/
12 Feb. 2013, 08:29am
-0- D i o r -0-

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykillmygil

Touche. :/

you were still first :P
12 Feb. 2013, 03:27pm
GAMEchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykillmygil

Per Slot
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 5
Ghost - 1 : 7
Box - 1 : 11
Wing - 1 : 30
Halo - 1 : 136

Per Row
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 125
Ghost - 1 : 251
Box - 1 : 1,243
Wing - 1 : 25,026
Halo - 1 : 2,498,847

Statistics I found for landing on each of the items. :/

Guess its time for me to start looking into javascript.

Those are great stats. However, JavaScript is not the optimal language for writing bots. It's just what I use, because it's what I know. It is efficient, but you have to learn a lot more (such as HTML, DOM, events, browser limitations, etc.) than just the language.

If someone can use these stats to determine the odds of getting tickets, that'd be even more useful. e.g. every possible combination and how much tickets you would get for each of those combinations.

I assume you would actually just need to calculate the ticket values of the combinations that actually give tickets, and then set the rest to 0.
12 Feb. 2013, 05:34pm
323

Charles, I'm telling you, making this freaking bot will be SO MUCH EASIER if you ACTUALLY PLAYED SLOTS ONCE lol. Seriously, you'll understand it so much more if you just play it once. This is like poking a stick at a phone in a box and trying to figure out how to use the phone without ever seeing it.
12 Feb. 2013, 06:06pm
GAMEchief

But then I'd have to actually play a Gaia game, and who wants to do that?
12 Feb. 2013, 06:07pm
-0- D i o r -0-

The Mathematics
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If we assume the gold rates to reflect the roll rates, we can determine the rates approximately.
If the gold rates are correctly proportioned to our roller ratio, we can find our base number per item.

Coin - 5
Ghost - 10
Box - 50
Wing - 1000
Halo - 100000

The ratio of each number in accordance to our base number is as follows:

Coin - 1
Ghost - 2
Box - 10
Wing - 200
Halo - 20,000

This tells us the ratio we see from the cash flow in exchange, now to try to figure out our rates per wheel.

Coin - 1
Ghost - 1.26
Box - 2.15
Wing - 5.85
Halo - 27.14

Now we need to multiply by the number of items we have.

Coin - 5
Ghost - 6.3
Box - 10.75
Wing - 29.25
Halo - 135.7

And apply our univeral overset "1".

Coin - 1/5
Ghost - 1/6.3
Box - 1/10.75
Wing - 1/29.25
Halo - 1/135.7

That's our rate per wheel - Now to find our chances of winning all three.
Simple cubing should do the trick, and we'll have our estimated rates.

Coin - 1/125
Ghost - 1/250.047
Box - 1/1242.296875
Wing - 1/25025.203125
Halo - 1/2498846.293

Round em up.

Coin - 1/125
Ghost - 1/251
Box - 1/1243
Wing - 1/25026
Halo - 1/2498847

And methinks we have ourselves the rates.

Per Slot
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 5
Ghost - 1 : 7
Box - 1 : 11
Wing - 1 : 30
Halo - 1 : 136

Per Row
Quote:
Coin - 1 : 125
Ghost - 1 : 251
Box - 1 : 1,243
Wing - 1 : 25,026
Halo - 1 : 2,498,847
12 Feb. 2013, 06:15pm
GAMEchief

Yeah, I saw that topic on Gaia. But that doesn't really tell me what it means regarding how many tickets each gives.

Also I totally bet the first 3 variables that the slots returns are the pictures on the wheels. I never thought of that. I should get their URLs and display them in the slots bot.
12 Feb. 2013, 07:21pm
ToyZeppelin

Calculating the roll rate for all outcomes are nearly impossible, unless you get the halo while recording your statistics. It's kinda like trying to figure out the odds to catch a rare fish, it's just too uncommon to collect reliable data.
However, wings are a very real outcome, I've received them multiple times.

Maybe you could include a counter for each outcome, which displays the percentage an outcome occurs based on a # outcomes/ # total rolls percentage.
12 Feb. 2013, 09:44pm
Stapled

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Stover

Yeah, I saw that topic on Gaia. But that doesn't really tell me what it means regarding how many tickets each gives.

Also I totally bet the first 3 variables that the slots returns are the pictures on the wheels. I never thought of that. I should get their URLs and display them in the slots bot.

Is this what you want http://i7.minus.com/iDkneh65n2up1.PNG ?
13 Feb. 2013, 02:08am
GAMEchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stapled

Is this what you want http://i7.minus.com/iDkneh65n2up1.PNG ?

That's actually extremely useful! Yes, what I wanted and then some.
13 Feb. 2013, 02:12am
323

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Stover

That's actually extremely useful! Yes, what I wanted and then some.

That's the chart displayed in the game. If you ever played the game, you would know that -_-
13 Feb. 2013, 02:25am
GAMEchief

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flareboy323

That's the chart displayed in the game. If you ever played the game, you would know that -_-

Look what I know without having played the game. Just as much.